Super - Super Unleaded!!!
Super - Super Unleaded!!!
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budaholic

Original Poster:

1,516 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th April 2005
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Hi guys....

A local petrol station has just installed a new pump, selling 99 octane unleaded for around 91p a litre.

But....... it's a Tescos petrol station!!

Does anyone know any reason not to use this instead of Optimax?
Who supplies Tesco fuels?

Bud

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Sunday 24th April 2005
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Sounds good. I cant see any reason why not to use it. It should be better.

I'm not sure where i've seen that Optimax is going to be replaced with 100 octane...or have I dreamt this.

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Sunday 24th April 2005
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Went to a party last night and got chatting to a girl from Shell, turned out to be quite high up!

She informed me that Optimax is due to be replaced by V Power, the same as Europe but this will still only be at least, as is Optimax, 98RON. V Power Racing is avaliable only in Germany and is 100RON or over, there are no plans for this product to come to the UK.

dannylt

1,906 posts

313 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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kojak said:
Sounds good. I cant see any reason why not to use it. It should be better.
Why should it be better? The engine is mapped to require a minimum grade - anything over this is wasted since the TVR engines can't adapt. Unless you get it mapped specially, or have the AJP Red Rose.

gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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I always consider supermarkets to sell 'cheap'fuel. I associate cheap fuel with nicosil bore and that kind of problem. So personally I would stick to Optimax or normal super unleaded.

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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dannylt said:

kojak said:
Sounds good. I cant see any reason why not to use it. It should be better.

Why should it be better? The engine is mapped to require a minimum grade - anything over this is wasted since the TVR engines can't adapt. Unless you get it mapped specially, or have the AJP Red Rose.


Whats the 4.2 mapped to then 95, 97 or 98?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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kojak said:

dannylt said:


kojak said:
Sounds good. I cant see any reason why not to use it. It should be better.


Why should it be better? The engine is mapped to require a minimum grade - anything over this is wasted since the TVR engines can't adapt. Unless you get it mapped specially, or have the AJP Red Rose.



Whats the 4.2 mapped to then 95, 97 or 98?


I have run my 4.2 on 95RON but only with a Octane booster added, and I only did this when I could get anything else! I think its mapped for 97.

You will find that as the TVR engines do not have knock sensors, so the engine can not adjust for the higher octane rated fuel. Although it’s impossible for the engine to adjust but you will find that you will have greater ‘power per punch’, due to its slower burn rate.

To sum it up, running 98RON or higher will not do your engine any harm, you will get more power (slightly) but you will not get the advantages that you would get from a car with a knock sensor.

(I think)

alinton

965 posts

265 months

Monday 25th April 2005
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AFAIK, V-Power fuel is only 95RON - here in Ireland no-one sells Octimax.

A relatively small number of stations sell Super-plus, either 97 or 98 RON, mostly Esso or Texaco.

I use that when possible, but as it's mostly not available I use 95 with a bottle of ocane booster in each full tank. In fact I worked out it's cheaper to use the octane booster than it is to pay the extra cost of the Super-Plus fuel!

TVRProwler

35 posts

259 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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I am most suprised that any retailer is offering 99 RON fuel. I don't think any UK refiner is producing it currently.

Who supplies Tesco is purley based on there location and which refinery/distribution terminal is closest.

Perhaps they are adding octane booster with the other additives and detergents.

Please be aware that the addition of detergents and additives is the one part of the complex fuel production system that is not done at refineries and hence does not undergo the same quality control procedures. I think it is this that has given supermarkets a bad name as the base fuel is identical only the additive may vary.

The other thing to bear in mind is that RON (Research Octane Number) is not a particularily good indication of of fuels performance under load. Much more important is MON (Motor Octane Number) and distillation charactaristics.

RON is always a higher value than MON as it is measured at lower revs and retarded ignition timing.