Induction pipes
Induction pipes
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morebeanz

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3,283 posts

258 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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Some years ago, I bought some short induction pipes and a mapped chip for my 4.5 and I've been very happy since.

Recently, while doing some fettling under the bonnet, and having removed said pipes, I have come to realise that the seating angle when they are attached is not right. Although they look firmly on from above, slipping a hand underneath at the engine end of the pipe shows that some of them do not seat properly on the flange. I don't know whether they leak or not, but there must be a good chance that they do - is that a major issue?


I'm assuming that since any leakage is upstream of the throttle butterflies it's probably not much of an issue?

esso

1,849 posts

239 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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The short induction pipes do not fit the standard backplates very well ,they do not seem to sit at the correct angle ,I experienced the same problem as you. I now have the carbon-fibre ACT backplates fitted to my airboxes along with the ACT short-induction pipes ,they are an excellent fit.

SimonKD

1,386 posts

253 months

Saturday 22nd September 2018
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Exactly the same here Esso.

Short induction pipes fit perfectly on the ACT carbon fibre backplates. I think it's because the 4 outlets are at a better angle to accept the short induction pipes compared to the standard backplates.

Just my thoughts
Simon

ukkid35

6,378 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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SimonKD said:
Short induction pipes fit perfectly on the ACT carbon fibre backplates. I think it's because the 4 outlets are at a better angle to accept the short induction pipes compared to the standard backplates.
Very useful to know

Sadly the back-plates are not available to purchase separately - Oh well

Revvit

334 posts

141 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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ukkid35

6,378 posts

195 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Thanks - I'm sure they weren't available separately some years ago, but perhaps I've remembered incorrectly

morebeanz

Original Poster:

3,283 posts

258 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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ACT don't sell the short induction pipes separately, so your (various) points about the angle of the tubing makes a lot of sense. I was going to buy a new set of silicon pipes anyway, as mine have rubbed in various places...

...now I'm going to have to get the backing plates too!


"Dear Mr Bank Manger..."


By the way, am I right in thinking that the backplates are sealed with that black mastic that TVR use everywhere?

SimonKD

1,386 posts

253 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Yes.

Half a dozen or so self tappers and that "Tiger Seal" stuff all around too.

Regards
Simon

morebeanz

Original Poster:

3,283 posts

258 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Tiger Seal - that's the stuff!!

schimg

1,923 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Hi!
I went the short induction and chip route too....
I reinforced my induction by bonding Ali tube into the air boxes,
Never had an issue with sealing the induction pipes...and you can properly tighten the jubilee clips around the pipes as they have assurance from the aluminium.....
Now Al and Simon are going to shoot me down over air flow😜
Steve.G.

SimonKD

1,386 posts

253 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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No Steve

Not at all.

I have nothing but admiration for how far you've managed to bring your Cerbera on since purchasing Her a few years back. This is with everything else "TVR Restoration wise" that's been happening too for as long as I've known you.

The only other differance is that the ACT backplates have carbon trompets to change the effective intake length. Just like on Mad Johns below. You can clearly see the 4 pipe connections are at a differant angle to standard ones.



Speak soon mate

SimonKD

morebeanz

Original Poster:

3,283 posts

258 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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They look like there is more trumpet outside the airbox as well as inside, and so it would be easier to get a seal on the piping. All of which is not helping me avoid making the purchase...

FarmyardPants

4,283 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th September 2018
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The longer inlet length is likely to afford you more peak torque, but possibly at the expense of a drop in peak power (the torque hump occurs at lower revs). Arguably better on the street but not for racing.

I’m not an expert by any measure but I know I have to rag the st out of mine (with short induction) to get the best out of it smile

Edit: ideally it should be rolling road mapped if you change the induction setup

morebeanz

Original Poster:

3,283 posts

258 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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FarmyardPants said:
...I know I have to rag the st out of mine (with short induction) to get the best out of it ...
Excuses, excuses, excuses... wink