Fuse box repositioning / re-fixing?
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So in need the help of you genius TVR owners to think of some clever suggestions as to how I can reposition the fuse box in by Cerbera as, related to this thread, the fuse box has fallen backwards into the wing and the securing mount at the bottom in the fibre glass has fallen out (*location unknown)
On the original thread it looked like from other owners photos that there were securing holes in the top of the fibreglass to fix / secure lugs from the top of the fusebox, but from the photos below it looks like mine doesn't have any, and at most there was some tape used to secure the top?
I'm thinking of removing the top row of relays, pushing the fuse box back through from the access panel in the back drivers light (see photos) and putting contact adhesive on both the fibreglass and the fusebox to 'stick' the top to the body
This way I can then also put some on the bottom securing 'mount' as there is still a small amount of fibreglass there that it should be able to bond to
Also I guess I could go the TVR route and use sticky velcro tape on both surfaces, but that sounds a bit temporary (although saying that the door boxes and everything else are still there many years later)
Any body-off owners had any similar experiences when rebuilding their cars?
As always thoughts and ideas always welcome!
Alex
Top of fusebox hole showing old tape and no obvious mounting holes
Bottom of fusebox showing where the securing nut and fibreglass used to be
Access from the rear light
On the original thread it looked like from other owners photos that there were securing holes in the top of the fibreglass to fix / secure lugs from the top of the fusebox, but from the photos below it looks like mine doesn't have any, and at most there was some tape used to secure the top?
I'm thinking of removing the top row of relays, pushing the fuse box back through from the access panel in the back drivers light (see photos) and putting contact adhesive on both the fibreglass and the fusebox to 'stick' the top to the body
This way I can then also put some on the bottom securing 'mount' as there is still a small amount of fibreglass there that it should be able to bond to
Also I guess I could go the TVR route and use sticky velcro tape on both surfaces, but that sounds a bit temporary (although saying that the door boxes and everything else are still there many years later)
Any body-off owners had any similar experiences when rebuilding their cars?
As always thoughts and ideas always welcome!
Alex
Top of fusebox hole showing old tape and no obvious mounting holes
Bottom of fusebox showing where the securing nut and fibreglass used to be
Access from the rear light
Edited by Juddder on Sunday 10th October 19:07
Edited by Juddder on Sunday 10th October 19:08
Gosh I really do hate these cars sometimes!
So with an awful lot of fiddling and multiple screw drivers I have managed to get the fuse box back in to position but now as soon as I turn the car on (I have the silver key on a push switch so I use this) the starter motor runs continuously and I can't hear the fuel pump priming... grrrr...
So as the fuel pump relay and the starter relay are the two two right hand side relays in the fuse box, I'm guessing some wires got knocked and I'm going to have to get to the back of the fuse box to investigate
Does anyone know if I can just push the fuse box through the gap from behind and then inspect the back of the fuse box this way?
There doesn't seem to be any other obvious ways to access the fuse box but I just wanted to try and get an educated opinion from everyone before I do this and potentially make things even more troublesome!
Cheers, Alex
So with an awful lot of fiddling and multiple screw drivers I have managed to get the fuse box back in to position but now as soon as I turn the car on (I have the silver key on a push switch so I use this) the starter motor runs continuously and I can't hear the fuel pump priming... grrrr...
So as the fuel pump relay and the starter relay are the two two right hand side relays in the fuse box, I'm guessing some wires got knocked and I'm going to have to get to the back of the fuse box to investigate
Does anyone know if I can just push the fuse box through the gap from behind and then inspect the back of the fuse box this way?
There doesn't seem to be any other obvious ways to access the fuse box but I just wanted to try and get an educated opinion from everyone before I do this and potentially make things even more troublesome!
Cheers, Alex
So if you've ever wondered what the back of your fusebox looks like and how all of the wires are connected together here's some pictures after removing mine from it's access hole today
The best way to remove it is to gently push from the back on the right hand side (nearest lights and away from release handle) and then gently lift up the wires behind as you move it and rotate it from flat to 90 degrees so that you can get the left two relays past the release handle. Once you have them cleared, you can tip the fusebox forwards and inspect the plugs and the wires on the back
Here's how the back looks
If you look very carefully at the photo of the back of mine you can see a blade on (what would normally be) the top right back corner (as you look at the front) of the rear of the fusebox and a transparent flat connector that should be connected to each other, but obviously during my fusebox repositioning these have become separated, which is probably the cause of my random electronic behaviour and continually running starter motor!
Here you can see the two together and the fusebox blade is marked 'S' in the lower right corner of the photo and the connector that should be connected to it is in the middle left of the photo with the clear blade cover and the red wire - according to the wiring diagrams the single connectors on the fusebox are labelled R, N, O, P and S so I am assuming this last one is the S connector and the 4 single ones to the left of it are the R, N, O and P ones
The red wire is actually fairly tight it it's position in the photo so I've ordered some crimps for tomorrow and I'm going to make an extension wire for it to make sure this doesn't happen (easily) again
Finally here's the hole where the bolt nut mount fell out of which I have to body filler up tomorrow too and remount a nut to to hold the fusebox in place going forwards
Fingers crossed for a successful day tomorrow
[edit] Does anyone have a better scan of the fusebox wiring than the ones I can find on the web? I've started editing the one I can find to try and join up the missing wires, but there are still some areas missing
The best way to remove it is to gently push from the back on the right hand side (nearest lights and away from release handle) and then gently lift up the wires behind as you move it and rotate it from flat to 90 degrees so that you can get the left two relays past the release handle. Once you have them cleared, you can tip the fusebox forwards and inspect the plugs and the wires on the back
Here's how the back looks
If you look very carefully at the photo of the back of mine you can see a blade on (what would normally be) the top right back corner (as you look at the front) of the rear of the fusebox and a transparent flat connector that should be connected to each other, but obviously during my fusebox repositioning these have become separated, which is probably the cause of my random electronic behaviour and continually running starter motor!
Here you can see the two together and the fusebox blade is marked 'S' in the lower right corner of the photo and the connector that should be connected to it is in the middle left of the photo with the clear blade cover and the red wire - according to the wiring diagrams the single connectors on the fusebox are labelled R, N, O, P and S so I am assuming this last one is the S connector and the 4 single ones to the left of it are the R, N, O and P ones
The red wire is actually fairly tight it it's position in the photo so I've ordered some crimps for tomorrow and I'm going to make an extension wire for it to make sure this doesn't happen (easily) again
Finally here's the hole where the bolt nut mount fell out of which I have to body filler up tomorrow too and remount a nut to to hold the fusebox in place going forwards
Fingers crossed for a successful day tomorrow
[edit] Does anyone have a better scan of the fusebox wiring than the ones I can find on the web? I've started editing the one I can find to try and join up the missing wires, but there are still some areas missing
Edited by Juddder on Sunday 7th November 10:47
Just the same ones we all put together years ago, that are hosted here:
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/WorkshopWiringDiagrams/CE...
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/wiringdiagrams.html
And whats in the workshop Manual
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/files/WorkshopManual/High...
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/workshopmanuals.html
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/WorkshopWiringDiagrams/CE...
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/wiringdiagrams.html
And whats in the workshop Manual
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/files/WorkshopManual/High...
http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/workshopmanuals.html
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