Series1 front Upright, missed the recall

[LLantrisant]

my 1997 AJP Cerb missed the recall ...means i have still the original uprights on the car.

my supplier told me that the direct-fit replacement uprights arent available anymore, therefore i would need the later ones(whatever this means?), which makes it neccessay to fit also 2 x new brake-calipers, 2 x wishbones, 2 x balljoints ..

is there no way to come around fitting new calipers and new wishbones?

Edited by LLantrisant on Tuesday 21st June 19:20

[CerbWill]

There were some really early hubs (pre recall) that didn't need changing. Post a pic of the ones you've got?

[Byker28i]

Have you missed the recall or just not got the sticker? I seem to remember the recall was replace the upright or plate the original where the crack happened...

Ah:
Remedy

Recall affected vehicles and replace the suspension uprights with a new design where found necessary. Fit an additional cover plate to those uprights showing no visible corrosion.

More information:
https://www.vehicle-recall.co.uk/recall/R/2001/085

also more on these threads - the second has photos
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 22 June 08:46

[TwinKam]

IIRC, the OP's car lived in Japan, so it is highly likely that it missed recalls...

[LLantrisant]

TwinKam said:

IIRC, the OP's car lived in Japan, so it is highly likely that it missed recalls...

exactly...and there is no cover on my uprights...also a VIN check turned out that my car was subject to the recall.

by the way: the car had a fresh MOT when i bought it

the car has low mileage, no corrosion anywhere and is used just in dry weather (summer)...but this doesnt gurantee that my uprights will remain crack-free i guess?

i´m willing to replace them, but without changing also brake-calipers, whishbones etc.

this said...the original recall was stating this:

Remedial Action : Recall affected vehicles and replace the suspension uprights with a new design where found necessary. Fit an additional cover plate to those uprights showing no visible corrosion.

so i will give it a check and if there is no corrosion i will fit a plate.

Edited by LLantrisant on Wednesday 22 June 10:43

[Classic Chim]

If they have lasted this long maybe not all units were at fault.
What mileage has the car achieved so far?
Can you just keep a regular check on them.

[LLantrisant]

Classic Chim said:

If they have lasted this long maybe not all units were at fault.
What mileage has the car achieved so far?
Can you just keep a regular check on them.

around 30k miles...and its all original...means the chassis and suspension parts look like they left the factory just a few months ago.
perfect white powder-coating, no dirt, mud, corrosion, waxoyl ...even all bolts are still shiny....

[Classic Chim]

LLantrisant said:

around 30k miles...and its all original...means the chassis and suspension parts look like they left the factory just a few months ago.
perfect white powder-coating, no dirt, mud, corrosion, waxoyl ...even all bolts are still shiny....

Wow that’s quite amazing and great to here.
I’m a Chim owner so not sure but are the uprights visibly accessible to look at on a monthly basis?
If it’s gone this far I’m inclined to have some faith in it but that’s someone’s famous last words!

Can you get replacements?
Just bite the bullet as that sounds very much like it’s worth investing in.
Any pictures
I sometimes need a bit of inspiration to get the hell on with the last few niggles on mine

[softtop]

this happened to me.

2000 Tuscan, the only reason to change is if they crack and you catch it early enough. One of mine cracked. Who knows what happened with the recall, before my time.

[Byker28i]

LLantrisant said:

Classic Chim said:

If they have lasted this long maybe not all units were at fault.
What mileage has the car achieved so far?
Can you just keep a regular check on them.

around 30k miles...and its all original...means the chassis and suspension parts look like they left the factory just a few months ago.
perfect white powder-coating, no dirt, mud, corrosion, waxoyl ...even all bolts are still shiny....

Sounds brilliant.


From one of the threads I posted above, the plate didn't look much



I'd probably live with it and just keep an eye out...

[CerbWill]

Byker28i said:

Sounds brilliant.


From one of the threads I posted above, the plate didn't look much



I'd probably live with it and just keep an eye out...

That's not 1 of the recalled hubs. That's pre-recall. The recalled ones look like this.



Llantrisant, which type do you have?

[LLantrisant]

The car is actually not with me, so I cannot check, neither i can take pictures..... I have to wait until it's back from the workshop who is now doing some other work.

[Jhonno]

Other option is used hubs.. Must be some floating about. I sold a pair a couple of years ago now to someone who had cracked uprights..

[Byker28i]

I'll have a look at mine next week - get some photos. I know mine was done and is an early car

[glow worm]

These are photos of a Tuscan that missed the recall and were replaced in 2009







I wouldn't drive a car if I suspected the front hub carriers were in this state.


https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by glow worm on Saturday 25th June 16:06

[TwinKam]

CerbWill said:

Byker28i said:

Sounds brilliant.


From one of the threads I posted above, the plate didn't look much



I'd probably live with it and just keep an eye out...

That's not 1 of the recalled hubs. That's pre-recall. The recalled ones look like this.



Llantrisant, which type do you have?

Shouldn't that be post-recall?... aren't the 'billet' ones the later ones?

[CerbWill]

TwinKam said:

Shouldn't that be post-recall?... aren't the 'billet' ones the later ones?

My car has the type pictured and was built before the cars that needed the recall (registered Sept 1996). I'm not sure what hubs they fitted to recalled cars so it seems possible the pre & post recall hubs are the same. See this post from Jools.

trackcar said:

Yes it was a recall carried out at TVR dealers for free. I remember doing hundreds of the things ..

edited to add : the earliest hubs were very strong and didnt need changing, then they introduced a thin-wall hub which cracked when the alloy corroded and the pressure against the steel bearing cracked the hub itself. Some would literally fall apart when you changed them. scary. I remember picking up on a few on MOTs and changing the hubs on many cars before the free recall came out only to have to change them again for the upgraded ones lol.

Edited by trackcar on Tuesday 25th March 08:40

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=6&t=513177

[TwinKam]

All the ones shown for Cerbs on RG are 'billet' type (they say "extruded"), so I assumed that the early ones were the more rounded cast type shown above. I could see those cracking as the hub rusted and expanded, whereas the 'billet' ones look like they'd survive WW3.
My Jan '98 has the 'billet' type FWIW.

[Davo23]

I was in the same situation and opted to have the whole front end replaced as you describe. It is not worth risking in my opinion.