Rubber and Cream
Rubber and Cream
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cerbagriff

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342 posts

270 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Never thought to much about rubber, until I booked up for cream - now I've gone and got some new rubber for the day. The offending articles are Toyo R888's - street legal track thingies - and they look so good it's almost a pity to use them on the track!
The salesman (who didn't have to work very hard it must be said) claims they are the 'dogs' and even a novice driver like wot I is will notice the difference. Anyone used these before and got good reports - or have I just blown a wad of cash?

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Ricer friends love them, say they're f'in sticky but a deathwish in the wet. Also reported to wear VERY quickly... I'd say a days worth of tracking will kill them, especially at Elvington.... just take it easy...

Out of 10

Wear : 2/10
Dry Grip : 9/10
Wet Grip: 1/10
Lateral Stability: 6/10 (great for drifting!)
High Speeds : 7/10
Rotational Mass: 9/10 (very light tyres!)

Overall Rating:
7/10

cerbagriff

Original Poster:

342 posts

270 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Seems that i've got a great get out if (and when) things go 'pete tong' - just have to remember those phrases like lack of lateral grip etc. The drive up might be interesting - 250 miles in the very early morning - lets hope it's not wet as well as cold!

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Saturday 27th August 2005
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What sizes did you get? I checked the Toyo site a while back and they didn't do the Cerb' sizes.

Tim

cerbagriff

Original Poster:

342 posts

270 months

Saturday 27th August 2005
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I've taken the spiders off and bought a set of old school 17"ers and gone for 235-40-17's all round hoping to get a better clearance in the rear wheel arches for hard cornering.

>> Edited by cerbagriff on Saturday 27th August 12:53

jesfirth

1,743 posts

271 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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I've used a set of R888's this year sprinting my cerb. They are superb in the dry and better in the wet than you expect except in standing water. Mine have lasted 4000 miles so far including 11 sprints with 4 runs on each so pretty good for such sticky rubber.

You can use 225 45 16's on the front and rear on the standard 16 inch rims.

WARNING for track day users. I overheated the R888's to such a degree that they lost most of their grip and became very unpredictable. This happened after only 3 laps of Goodwood-although I was doing 92 second laps. I would be careful on track days with these if the weather and track is hot.

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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jesfirth said:
I've used a set of R888's this year sprinting my cerb. They are superb in the dry and better in the wet than you expect except in standing water. Mine have lasted 4000 miles so far including 11 sprints with 4 runs on each so pretty good for such sticky rubber.

You can use 225 45 16's on the front and rear on the standard 16 inch rims.

WARNING for track day users. I overheated the R888's to such a degree that they lost most of their grip and became very unpredictable. This happened after only 3 laps of Goodwood-although I was doing 92 second laps. I would be careful on track days with these if the weather and track is hot.



Thats not bad milage from such a set of tyres. I note that Dunlop also do their Super Sport race in 225/45x16" sizes.

Have you ever been tempted to move to larger wheels (17" or 18" for tyre choice?

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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jesfirth said:
WARNING for track day users. I overheated the R888's to such a degree that they lost most of their grip and became very unpredictable. This happened after only 3 laps of Goodwood-although I was doing 92 second laps. I would be careful on track days with these if the weather and track is hot.


Thats why they're dead popular in drifting. But I doubt you'd want to be drifting in a cerbera unless you've got plenty run off space...

jesfirth

1,743 posts

271 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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yup. when I went off it was into the barrier-still cosmetic damage only

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Sunday 28th August 2005
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jesfirth said:
yup. when I went off it was into the barrier-still cosmetic damage only


Ouch!