Carbon bonnet for cerbie!!!
Carbon bonnet for cerbie!!!
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SXS

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3,065 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Ok, I'm trying to get 3 or more people together to get carbon bonnets priced at 699+VAT. This is a cracking price and will be developed by Thompsons GRP Specialists (Carbon Al's company).

I've started the thread over at bhpworld.

http://www.bhpworld.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&board=28.0

Come on chaps, all of you who were interested in a front-end respray to clean things up, it might just be in-order to get a carbon bonnet fitted while you're at it!

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Any idea of the weight saving and would this be plain or vented?

SXS

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3,065 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Major weight-saving!!!! one finger strength required to lift bonnet!!!

If you need anymore information, you need to post interest and further questions over on the link I provided above, carbon al will reply all questions. I believe we already have one interested party!

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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SXS said:
Major weight-saving!!!!


What is that in kilos?

2 sheds

2,529 posts

313 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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When i used to do carbon panels we could produce a door weighing 1.9 kg when the same in regular grp was closer to 8 kg, i recon a bonnet in pre-preg carbon would weigh around 5 kg, stacks less than the TVR original.

At £699 thats terific value, especially as Als work is top notch.

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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And the original weighs, what, 15-20 Kgs max?

SXS

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

286 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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Tim is bang on the money, 5-6kg

Pete you're also bang on the money, 17KG for a standard cerbie hood, dont know the lightweight versions weight though

blue 4.5

1,543 posts

266 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Dumb question probably, but what is stronger, carbon fibre or fibreglass?

GreenV8S

31,014 posts

313 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I reckon you could easily double that if you had it professionally fitted and painted. Are you seriously considering spending over a grand in order to save 10Kg weight? That's less than 1% weight reduction, so in terms of power-to-weight it's the equivalent of about 3 bhp. It might make sense if your bonnet had been damaged and you needed to replace it anyway, but as a performance upgrade it just doesn't make sense; there are far better ways to spend the money.

gazzab

21,627 posts

311 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I find that driving with no passengers, petrol tank 1/4 full, no clothes on and a good dump tends to make the car faster.

spartacus

2,878 posts

299 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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blue 4.5 said:
Dumb question probably, but what is stronger, carbon fibre or fibreglass?


Er carbon fibre...(from my layman's understanding) the strands themselves are stronger in certain planes when force applied, coupled with the fact that the strands are woven into a mat makes them even stronger, also once bonded in resin the whole lot is baked in an autoclave to temper as required. That's why F1 cars and even some of the latest generation fighter planes are largely made of the stuff.

carl_w

10,731 posts

287 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Carbon fibre is stronger per unit weight. So with a CF bonnet, you could either make it as heavy as the fibreglass one, in which case it would be x times stronger, or do it the other way (which is what F1 cars do) and make it as strong as the fibreglass one, but x times lighter.

How will the CF bonnets come out? If you have a black Cerb (like I do) could you just put it straight on, or would the surface need to be sealed in some way? Will they come with all the fitting clips attached?

cerealsurfer

594 posts

292 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I'm in the market for a new bonnet and at 699+VAT that sounds pretty good to me. A TVR OEM unit is 900 +VAT. I need a spare as I want to do some development work on revised air intake routing.

Let me know when they are available.

SXS

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3,065 posts

286 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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GreenV8S said:
... but as a performance upgrade it just doesn't make sense...


Come on Pete, not everyones got a supercharged methanol injected rocket!!!!

I think its a good thing, me thinks also that stone-chipping will be a lot less noticeable due to carbons stiffness, so all in, not only does one get to say 'carbon hood' but also longer terms before having to fork out for a front end respray due to stonechipping etc....

I think those who have the darker cars could even just go raw carbon fibre with a laquered finish... beautiful

the main thing is the price, I mean what can you get for 700 quids these days, let alone a huge carbon hood!

njw 77

17,065 posts

267 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Hmm, how about leaving it unpainted on my car? Black bonnet on yellow car

Similar price to getting the stone chips done

>> Edited by NJW 77 on Wednesday 7th September 13:07

3000M-TwinTurbo

82 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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GreenV8S said:
I reckon you could easily double that if you had it professionally fitted and painted. Are you seriously considering spending over a grand in order to save 10Kg weight? That's less than 1% weight reduction, so in terms of power-to-weight it's the equivalent of about 3 bhp. It might make sense if your bonnet had been damaged and you needed to replace it anyway, but as a performance upgrade it just doesn't make sense; there are far better ways to spend the money.


True, But If you just have the bonnet clear with the carbon showing it will just look awesome.....