European ULEZ & Road Trips

[camel_landy]

FFS... All I want to do, is go on a road trip, in the Cerbera, around bits of mainland Europe. As part of this trip, I want to visit various motoring museums but I can't work out what the fecking regulations are, etc.

eg: Can I visit the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart... BMW in Munich... Etc...

Anyone got any useful sites, details, etc coz the 'official' stuff is about as useful as a chocolate tea-pot?

M

[Byker28i]

Belgium I know. Brussels, Antwerp and Ghent have Ulez but you can pay for a day etc excemption

try
https://www.eccbelgium.be/themes/car/driving-in-eu...

or
https://urbanaccessregulations.eu/

[NCE 61]

France as well required in another 30 cities this year https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/

[8Speed]

my Griffith is late '96 registration and it too old to get a French sticker.

[camel_landy]

Yeah, I've managed to navigate around France but this year I was thinking of dropping down through Germany and visit a few of the museums eg: Porsche in Stuttgart, BMW, etc..

I was trying to understand the implications for a '98 Cerb but I'm not sure I can be really arsed now.

Pity they can't have it harmonised across the EU, with maybe an exemption for 7x days, per zone in any 12mth period. That way, it'd help visitors from out of town whilst still achieving it's goals... Or am I being too naïve.

M

[TR4man]

camel_landy said:

.. Or am I being too naïve.

M

Yes, it is all a big revenue raising wheeze.

Nothing to do will minimising pollution or promoting local businesses.

[jstx]

TR4man said:

Yes, it is all a big revenue raising wheeze.

Nothing to do will minimising pollution or promoting local businesses.

Revenuers; never contributing to society always sucking the life from it.

[Martin_MUC]

For Munich you need a green Euro 4 sticker for a petrol engine. My 2000 Cerbera has one. Costs 5 Euros.
https://www.tuvsud.com/de-de/branchen/mobilitaet-u...
Cheers
Martin

Edited by Martin_MUC on Saturday 5th April 18:01

[Byker28i]

TR4man said:

Yes, it is all a big revenue raising wheeze.

Nothing to do will minimising pollution or promoting local businesses.

Belgium is all about the pollution in cities. In fact they have a huge recharging infrastructure, huge numbers in cars parks, lots of charging points in streets, and 0.35Euro per kw, rather the 85p here, with decent fast chargers, to back up their LEZ.

Park and ride, really cheap public transport, even the trains. Ghent to Antwerp 12 Euros return... Sorry but they've done it right.

Got a Euro 6 car, you can register it for free, want to take in another that is classed as dirty you can buy a pass.

If it was about pollution in the uk, it would be reduced speed to 50 for ICE, but EVs allowed to continue at 70...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 5th April 20:30

[LunarOne]

I think all ULEZ schemes should allow a maximum of 5-10 days of access free of charge per annum. That way very occasional users such as classic car owners and tourists can go about their business without being unduly encumbered by such schemes, while still encouraging those who live and work in a city to drive something less polluting within the zone. But of course these schemes are really there to raise money rather than dissuade drivers of polluting vehicles and this would be leaving money on the table.

[camel_landy]

Martin_MUC said:

For Munich you need a green Euro 4 sticker for a petrol engine. My 2000 Cerbera has one. Costs 5 Euros.
https://www.tuvsud.com/de-de/branchen/mobilitaet-u...
Cheers
Martin

Ta muchly.

They've gone up to Eu17.50 but I've gone through the ordering process, so we'll see what turns up.

M

[LunarOne]

camel_landy said:

Martin_MUC said:

For Munich you need a green Euro 4 sticker for a petrol engine. My 2000 Cerbera has one. Costs 5 Euros.
https://www.tuvsud.com/de-de/branchen/mobilitaet-u...
Cheers
Martin

Ta muchly.

They've gone up to Eu17.50 but I've gone through the ordering process, so we'll see what turns up.

M

I got mine from Dekra. They sent the sticker and then sent me an invoice because in typical German fashion they aren't a country who like to pay by card online. Was a bit of a faff to get the payment done!

This card aversion thing came as a big surprise when I lived in Germany for work from 2009-11. You could order stuff online but then the delivery guy wanted payment in cash!

[mcm87]

I’ve got both the German green sticker and French crit d’air in my car - they were both were super cheap to order and turned up in a few days, the only hassle was taking a photo of the v5, which wasn’t a problem really.

I’m not sure if there would be any consequences if you didn’t have them, but I figured a U.K. plate car might be a target for checking.