front screen-£cost?

[Toady1]

Hi, does anyone know how much a new screen costs? im going to look at a cerb on sat, but it has the white contaminated laminate! Its a '96 model, so at the bottom of the spec out there, has apparently had the cams done, but i will double check this, and had recent new avos. What are they like compared to the nitrons? thanks!
Liam :)

[speed8]

Toady1 said:

Hi, does anyone know how much a new screen costs?

About £50 excess on your insurance windscreen cover when it gets a nasty stone chip

[purpleheadedcerb]

No idea how much the screen is but surely you might spot a stonechip and £50 excess later have the insurance sort it out?

On anything else I know, Avo's are excellent. Can't see them being any worse on a Cerbera. I wonder if anyone's ever done a 'pepsi challenge' with shockers and been able to distinguish between standard, Avo's and Nitrons?? I think you would have to have a very finely tuned palet to know unless these Nitrons are really that much better.

Anyone?

PS. Buy it anyway and bring it to Santa Pod on Sunday!

Scott

>> Edited by purpleheadedcerb on Wednesday 19th October 21:58

[Toady1]

lol! dont think ill have it by then!

good point on insurance!lol! forgot about that!

[RUSSELLM]

I thought the car came supplied with Avo's out of the factory ?

[gazzab]

Factory used to just do blancmange based shocks.
they changed to decent dampers at the end of the cerb run. they were never AVOs.
AVOs are a budget damper and are much better than the blancmange based ones.

Screen - if the delamination is not too bad then I wouldnt bother changing it. The replacement might well soon be in the same condition! Fitting a new screen can be a nightmare and you might end up with a whole new set of issues instead.

[dean_ratpac]

[quote=purpleheadedcerb]I wonder if anyone's ever done a 'pepsi challenge' with shockers and been able to distinguish between standard, Avo's and Nitrons?? I think you would have to have a very finely tuned palet to know unless these Nitrons are really that much better.

Anyone?
[quote]
i've had all 3 avo's were good but the Nitrons are the dogs. it's all about the $$$. standard to nitron is completely different handling. best upgrade you can do.

Deano
www.theRATPAC.com

>> Edited by dean_ratpac on Thursday 20th October 15:29

[marcus1970]

Nearly all of the cerbs that I've ever seen have this white in the corners.

I know why this happens and the reason is... if you look at the cerb doors, they are long and are thus heavy. They are attached quite close to the front of the car and when they are opened and left to stop moving forwards of their own accord, they put stress on the bits above and below the hinges where they are joined and tend to try to pull these bits of the car off.

This gradually worsens with time you know the odd pull here and there and this starts to pull the windscreen away from its glue points and shows as a white frosting type of blemish in the corners.

Eventually it will spread and its then up to you how much you can put up with before getting the problem repaired or replaced.

Its not the windscreen its the glue holding it to the car.

For those who are doubtful about this explanation, if you do not have any white frosting in the corners of your windscreen then go and open your car door on a windy day or park facing down a hill and just let your door go so that either the wind catches it and wrenches it forewards or the hill and gravity do their work and your door powers forwards to be stopped abruptly with usually a loud cracking type noise as the glue gives way etc.

Regards

MB

PS a small stone chip will indeed reduce the cost of repair as window guys will have to get rid of old crusty glue and put in nice new glue that will be lovely and black - until you forget to hold onto your door one day. DOH!

[satman]

I was told that the white bits was caused by moisture getting between the laminate within the screen itself, and causing the milky effect. Due mainly to poor or lack of sufficent sealant and seals around the base of the windscreen where water can gather. Mine seems to support this theory, as the white seems to be far less during summer/dry periods of the year and worse during wintery/wet times.
I do understand your 'stressing' theory, as I have hear a sort of 'cracking' sound if the door swings open, but I have seen this millky effect on Chims and Griffs as well... but I know nothing!

[marcus1970]

Hmm, an interesting theory. I must admit it does seem that over time it does worsen and maybe its the water creeping in where its not wanted and worsening this little white nuisance.

However, one day I had a windscreen with white in the bottom left hand corner. I was on a slight decline (facing forwards) and chatting away, popped the door and forgot to hold on etc as I posted earlier. When I got home I got out of the car and had a little shifty over the door etc to try and source the cracking noise that I had heard. Couldn't see any damage and went to close the door. I then noticed that a few inches of bottom right hand windcsreen had a new milky effect. I put two and two together and went in doors and got upset that I'd hurt my lovely cerb.

Maybe then its the glue and the laminate stuff that gets ripped apart once in a while?

Regards

MB

Just a thought, maybe the Griffs and the like also have long heavy doors and similar hingeing points

[Extra 300 Driver]

satman said:

I was told that the white bits was caused by moisture getting between the laminate within the screen itself, and causing the milky effect. Due mainly to poor or lack of sufficent sealant and seals around the base of the windscreen where water can gather. Mine seems to support this theory, as the white seems to be far less during summer/dry periods of the year and worse during wintery/wet times. I do understand your 'stressing' theory, as I have hear a sort of 'cracking' sound if the door swings open, but I have seen this millky effect on Chims and Griffs as well... but I know nothing!

Thats correct.

You can also have your screen replaced due to delamanation. I had it done at National Windscreens in Basildon. 100% perfect and cost me fifty quid, the even replaced the A pos finishers with Carbon ones!

[satman]

Extra 300 Driver said:

satman said: I was told that the white bits was caused by moisture getting between the laminate within the screen itself, and causing the milky effect. Due mainly to poor or lack of sufficent sealant and seals around the base of the windscreen where water can gather. Mine seems to support this theory, as the white seems to be far less during summer/dry periods of the year and worse during wintery/wet times. I do understand your 'stressing' theory, as I have hear a sort of 'cracking' sound if the door swings open, but I have seen this millky effect on Chims and Griffs as well... but I know nothing! Thats correct. You can also have your screen replaced due to delamanation. I had it done at National Windscreens in Basildon. 100% perfect and cost me fifty quid, the even replaced the A pos finishers with Carbon ones!

Did they replace the screen or carryout a repair?

[Nickccc]

I think Satman is right though stressing the are will also alow water ingress.
It is know as delamination I think.
Liam what about the whit one on the other thread. That's a Julz car.
Nick.

[Extra 300 Driver]

satman said:

Extra 300 Driver said: satman said: I was told that the white bits was caused by moisture getting between the laminate within the screen itself, and causing the milky effect. Due mainly to poor or lack of sufficent sealant and seals around the base of the windscreen where water can gather. Mine seems to support this theory, as the white seems to be far less during summer/dry periods of the year and worse during wintery/wet times. I do understand your 'stressing' theory, as I have hear a sort of 'cracking' sound if the door swings open, but I have seen this millky effect on Chims and Griffs as well... but I know nothing! Thats correct. You can also have your screen replaced due to delamanation. I had it done at National Windscreens in Basildon. 100% perfect and cost me fifty quid, the even replaced the A pos finishers with Carbon ones! Did they replace the screen or carryout a repair?

Replaced it, took 2 days and they had to bring a guy down from Manchester to do it. Really top notch job.

[Toady1]

Nickccc said:

I think Satman is right though stressing the are will also alow water ingress. It is know as delamination I think. Liam what about the whit one on the other thread. That's a Julz car. Nick.

cos white ones are gay! heh heh!only joking! yours looks gorge in white! ill have more of a look at it, passed it up as didnt like the wheels, but seeing as theyre simple to change.....bit of a silly reason to not consider it really. cheers!
Liam