Tyre Fitting - Nitrogen
Tyre Fitting - Nitrogen
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dean_ratpac

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1,582 posts

307 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Hi all, around the kingston area anyone know of a goog place to get tyres fitted?
I've got the tyres was also thinking about the nitrogen aswell. plus cheap!
been quoted silly prices for just two rears

thanks for any leads
Deano

>> Edited by dean_ratpac on Thursday 9th March 15:22

jeremyc

28,089 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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I've always had good service from these guys: www.surbitontyreandwheel.co.uk/

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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dean_ratpac said:
Hi all, around the kingston area anyone know of a goog place to get tyres fitted?
I've got the tyres was also thinking about the nitrogen aswell. plus cheap!
been quoted silly prices for just two rears

thanks for any leads
Deano

>> Edited by dean_ratpac on Thursday 9th March 15:22


Bring your car to Soutend and I will do it for a pint!

We use it on aircraft you see!

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Nick.

Is it a noticable difference with nitrogen in?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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kojak said:
Nick.

Is it a noticable difference with nitrogen in?


Not at the 'Driving Miss Daisy' pace I drive at.

gazzab

21,635 posts

311 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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I got four tyres fitted for £10 all in for all four in Haslemere to spiders by a tyre shop that are used by Fernies! I gave them £20!!

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Nitrogen is pretty pointless in 'normal' tyres.

Never get hot enough.

dean_ratpac

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1,582 posts

307 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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i don't consider 18/255/35 normal tires? The temperature difference in this country, i've had several tuners and petrol heads advise on tryin it out. as far as i understood the reasons in using Nitrogen;
You don't need to check tyre pressures as there's not the reaction you get with O2 which will contract and expand depending on temperatures, nitrogen won't. You actually run slightly less pressure, which helps with the comfort factor -softer ride, reports of the grip feels higher.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Why would you not check your pressure? I check mine due to leaks etc. No tyre is ever a perfct seal.

Also I don't see the logic in running slightly less pressure. Nitogen is inert, less reactive to temperature hence the use. If anything you should use slightly higher pressure as the pressure will not increase when the vehicle is used etc.

Normal tyres I would consider anything that is non slick, not at high temperatures etc etc.

flashheart

581 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Am I being an ar5e and saying that normal air is 78% Nitrogen?

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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Indeed

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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And you have static air in the tyre anyway. So to get 100% n2 in there you need to do it in a gas chamber!

dean_ratpac

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1,582 posts

307 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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ridds not that i wouldn't check the tyre pressure i meant as often, less a degree of change of temperature within the tyre, i'm saying that they stay more of a constant from being cold and hot, i'm only asking for anyone who's tried.
it seems more specialised application and users have praised it.

>> Edited by dean_ratpac on Thursday 9th March 23:31

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th March 2006
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tbh form experience I've heard about it it's not really worth the effort. It's a lot of hassle for little gain.

Guys I know who sprint that don't bother, they generate substantial amounts of heat in their tyres, very sticky and high loads.

If you can get it done cheap then all's good but I doubt you'll feel any benefits.

carl_w

10,739 posts

287 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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It's not the oxygen that expands with temperature -- it's the water vapour in the normal air. Sure, gases expand with temperature but you're talking about the difference between around 270 and 300 kelvins, so not a great deal (can't be bothered to dig out the ideal gas equations). The idea of filling it with nitrogen is to use something pretty inert that has no water vapour in it. Helium would do the trick, as would any of the noble gases but they're pretty expensive. Although helium might escape via osmosis, like it does in rubber balloons.

>> Edited by carl_w on Friday 10th March 10:20