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Trellis

Original Poster:

590 posts

268 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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Hi

My starter spins every time but only 'catches' about half the time.

Its been doing this the past week. Prior to that it was absolutely fine.

Whats this indicating? - if its on its way out, it would be handy to know
so I can call the AA at the 'appropriate' time!!! (I've got the repair cover)

Thanks

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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It's on its way out!
MB

grass widow

2,201 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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Oh its on its way out alright, mines just died a death for the second time. First cost me a split tire and a low loader after it had to be moved. So whatever you do get it sorted now before it leaves you high and dry.

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

307 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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I believe to have the cover 'cover the labour and parts' is for an AA call out. you cannot just tell them its on its way out. its got to break down. what you don't need is the AA to come out and then for it to start, which in TVR world will probably happen.

sods law really!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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Trellis said:
(I've got the repair cover)


I've had a couple of £975's out of them, but even I'd struggle to find anything "broken" in a starter motor.

Me thinks you'll have to swallow the price of a refurb on that one due to wear & tear.

Good luck all the same



gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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They will pay out for a starter if they cant fix at roadside. They did agree to do it for me on my last cerb (and then APM said actualy it didnt need replacing as it had only come adrift slightly and just needed tightening up! - so I didnt actually claim).

Neilus

908 posts

311 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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I've recently had them pay out for a new starter (a couple of month back). But, the starter has to be NFG when the AA man (or woman) comes out.

Neil.

Trellis

Original Poster:

590 posts

268 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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s'what I figured - hence the question - I was going to try and time it just right so it won't suddenly spark back to life!

I reckon they'll only try it a couple of times.

It would help if it was more/less likely to fail according to temperature - but there doesnt seem to be a pattern to it.

Reckon I'll just chance it not too far from home on the day I want to get it recovered!!

grass widow

2,201 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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Best of luck, ours went in the garage, had to tow it out sideways and ended up with a split tyre as well as the car going off on a low loader. They're very unpredictable, didn't think ours would start a couple of times but it did, then on then day it was due to go to the garage, it wouldn't start. Sods law

Now its having a second refurb in 6 month, no warning it just went, thankfully it was at the garage this time when it went, having just had its service.

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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So, what car did you eventually get? Your profile still says 4.5 Chim'.

As for the starter, bite the bullit and send it off to Eurolec to get it refibished. I'm not sure that I would trust the AA not to put a Nissan Maxima one in, and hey presto you have problems again in a couple of months.

It's not bad getting it out, only took 30mins maximum.

Tim

Trellis

Original Poster:

590 posts

268 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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I got a Cerb

No seriously - I got a 4.2 97, (2 door hardtop ) - I decided to scratch the itch - "you only live once" etc etc!

I didnt realise the starter was a potential 'roadside' - thats handy to know - but most AA don't take much persuasion to revert to low loader in my experience. Either way I'm going to have to chance it - and get it somewhere where I can put a decent one on it. I think the outgoing has done about 3 years - not bad I guess!!!

Cheers Tim - maybe see you at a get together sometime!





TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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You really only need a couple of spanners and a screwdriver, oh, and the odd allen key.

You don't need a garage to do it, just, as I've said, about half an our to remove and about the same to put the new one in.

But do bare in mind that you will need to send yours off to be referbed' so the car may be immobile for a few days.

There is a guy on eBay selling starters outright for £270, but i know of at least one PHeaded who's not very happy with his starter, as it went 't*ts up' after just a few days. www.eurolec-components.com are the people TVR now use, so I'm told. Eurolec want £160 to recon your unit.

Tim

PS: less of the sarchasm, not sure I've forgiven you for the 'talking to the wrong people' comment in one of your previous postings.

Ballsy

317 posts

246 months

Tuesday 30th May 2006
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mines was doing the exact same, i took the starter out after it just wouldnt start, sent it was and the place said...'err yir starters fine mate' but said the conection between the solenoid and the starter bit itself was needing cleaned up a bit. When i fitted it that day it started first time and has started no bother for the next 9 or 10 times ive been out in it, when it was off i cleaned up some of the wires left on the car and planning to do the earths on friday

Trellis

Original Poster:

590 posts

268 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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Cheers Guys - sounds like i need to make a couple of checks before I write it off. (and potentially call the AA)

Ballsy - was your starter spinning though or just dead?

Will get on the case this weekend.

Tim - I guess its fairly straightforward? I get the impression your 'half hour jobs' might be my 'nightmare half day'!!!

spamgroper

19 posts

249 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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how did you do it in half an hour,did you get it out without removing anything else.

i removed fuel rail,throttle linkage,top cover and big fuse carrier which in turn had stripped its grab bolts(real name anybody) which led to removal of coil packs and coil pack mounting plate which already had 3 of these grab bolts missing which i had to replace at work the next day.

i love these half hour jobs.

to make matters worse when i re-assembled it all i found a crack on the weld on my exaust manifold.....and it rained.....and it was cold......but i enjoyed it

Trellis

Original Poster:

590 posts

268 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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hmm, half hour well spent there then!

HarryW

16,027 posts

298 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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Obviuosly a Cerb 'half hour' job is very much like the misses pointing out the '5 minute' jobs around the house then

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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Odd you mention about the loose wires.

Mine has the same issue, spins without catching at times and makes that horrible screeeeeh.

However, mine is absolutely spot on when warm. Now, assuming that connections may become tighter as things get warm etc perhaps this is what my car suffers from.... Hmmmm

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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Nope, only took me half an hour to take the bugger out. Bit longer to put it back in as I re-wrapped 3 hoses with heat wrap, but not a lot longer.

Yes, I removed the fuel rail, and cut several cable ties to release various hoses and the only thing I broke was the tail for the barometric pressure sensor of the NS airbox.

Tim

GTSCerb

2 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st May 2006
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ridds said:
Odd you mention about the loose wires.

Mine has the same issue, spins without catching at times and makes that horrible screeeeeh.

However, mine is absolutely spot on when warm. Now, assuming that connections may become tighter as things get warm etc perhaps this is what my car suffers from.... Hmmmm


I've just taken mine out tonight and its definitely better when warm too,

started on the 4th try when cold - but first time when I got back home.