HID conversion for Cerb H4s...?
HID conversion for Cerb H4s...?
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gazzab

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21,638 posts

311 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0009-New-CAR-XE

Could be good value me thinks..... wonder what colour temp to go for...?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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I have been looking at these too, but for the mini.

carl_w

10,740 posts

287 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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Are they dim/dip?

gazzab

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21,638 posts

311 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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Well I have managed to find this supplier............
www.visionbulbs.com
I have talked to them and got us a 10% discount if you use the following code.
VBVIPDSCT

So £128 incl delivery.

They are apparently "better quality than other kits on offer to TVR owners".

Not sure what colour/temp to go for - I like the idea of a colour that matches the car colour!

If we want to go for a group buy then I could negotiate a bigger discount ie up to 50% (but I doubt we would get that many interested peeps).

huddscerbie

43 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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at 128 inc. i'd be interrested. probably go for the brilliant white as opposed to a tint

carl_w

10,740 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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You need the H4-2 Hi/Lo though, which are 172 quid before 10% discount, so around £155 not £128.

350matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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What's colour temperature?
Is it frequency related? Blue 1200, orange 8000?

Best to avoid blue as well, as human eyesight works least efficently at that frequency, despite how cool it may look

Matt

gazzab

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21,638 posts

311 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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Oh - so hi/lo must be the dim dip function?!?!
So its 4300 or 6000 for the white light. I guess 6000 is the best option to not strain existing wiring?

carl_w

10,740 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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I think the colour is irrelevant to the power consumption. They usually draw about 25W, which is far less than the existing 55W/60W bulbs.

I'm considering them -- would probably go for the 6000K which I believe is the colour temperature of most OEM HIDs. Much higher than that and I reckon it'll be a bit Max Power.

Colour temperature is the temperature at which a black body (perfect radiator) would emit light of that frequency. Daylight is about 6000K, and I think indoor tungsten lights are somewhere around 2800K.

Edited by carl_w on Friday 2nd June 11:35

hbeck

424 posts

252 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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gazzab said:
Oh - so hi/lo must be the dim dip function?!?!
So its 4300 or 6000 for the white light. I guess 6000 is the best option to not strain existing wiring?


Group Buy, I'd be interested at the prices mentioned so far.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

301 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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I'm pretty sure that the dip beam needs to be self levelling - thats what Hella said to me when I last looked into it. It's probably less of an issue on a Cerb but might be worth checking. On a related note I found PIAA do E-marked Halogen bulbs all the way up to 180/135W although you'd obviously need to uprate the wiring to cope.
www.piaa.co.uk/bulbs/bulbshow.asp?ID=halogen

Steve.

350matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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Another question displaying my ignorance, but are the early single headlamps H4?

Ta
Matt

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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350matt said:
Another question displaying my ignorance, but are the early single headlamps H4?

Ta
Matt


Yes they are. I've got PIAA super-white bulbs in mine with uprated wiring, and they're pretty good. miles better than standard anyway.

TVRwhoa

349 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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I've recently put the track car solutions HID lights on mine.

I haven't got the box anymore, but I'm sure they are rated at 8000K.

They are very bright, even on the cerb I have asked for the beam to be lowered as it is very bright when coming up to things, and the missus said driving behind her was blinding before they were lowered slightly. Note the headlights were aligned after fitting and checked, they are now at the lowest setting possible.

I think you can illuminate the blue motorway signs from about a mile away, so it gives you an indication of the brightness.

As for road driving on unlit national speed limit roads, the difference is phenomenal you can really see the road lit up nicely - very clean crisp light, mine just seem to be crystal white.I understand from talking to Joolz that they use much lower reduce current than the normal headlights, so there should be no danger of frying wiring etc.

On the whole I'd recommend them, just be prepared for the complete difference in light output.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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anybody know how much and where from i can get the bolt in tuscan/later cerb light units
please ???? as i'm thinking of updating

cramorra

1,689 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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Please keep me informed- I would be interested @ these prices