Sports zorsts
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HarryW

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16,028 posts

298 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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Anyone have any pictures of their sports exhaust, particularly ones with the 2.5" or 3" tails. Eye level pics when fitted would be good .
I think the 2.5" straight through may be too loud as the felines are absent. So I think I'm leaning to the 3" ones with the extra silencers built into the back from Tim at ACT but can't remember seeing any pictures of them on a Cerb, and search isn't helping .

Another query is; whilst the extra silencing should keep the general noise down (good) does it muffle the pops and bangs excessively (bad )

dc53

3,217 posts

249 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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we are buyin an sport zaust tommorow we will take a pic for you when its fitted and then post it on here for you

HarryW

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16,028 posts

298 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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Cheers look forward to them, what system is it

v8_oatz

381 posts

279 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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HarryW said:
I'm leaning to the 3" ones with the extra silencers built into the back from Tim at ACT

Harry -funnily enough I've also been talking to Tim about the 3" pipes As well as the 'built-in' silencing there is also the option of adding extra trackday silencers to them to get through the noise restriction test.

Be nice to see some pics...

TJW

3,848 posts

276 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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Oh, FOUND SOME




Edited by TJW on Friday 7th July 21:05

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

253 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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So harry, have you now brought a cerb then?

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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Interestingly, when I approached JP about a year ago to make sports systems with 3 inch bore they said they couldnt do it as the only suitable silencers they made were 2.5 inch internal pipework so no point other than aesthetics of the tailpipe (ie no extra flow). have JP now started making 3inch silencers then? Would be cool if they do cos i have a project for them

HarryW

Original Poster:

16,028 posts

298 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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Autonotiv said:
So harry, have you now brought a cerb then?

Keep up at the back http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic. , just need to sell the S

v8_oatz

381 posts

279 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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trackcar said:
have JP now started making 3inch silencers then?

Hi Joo! I'm no expert and I'm sure he'll be along directly to correct me but:

[sticks neck out]
I think it's a 3" diameter tail-pipe accomodating a 2.5" silencer
[pulls neck back in]

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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v8_oatz said:
trackcar said:
have JP now started making 3inch silencers then?

Hi Joo! I'm no expert and I'm sure he'll be along directly to correct me but:

[sticks neck out]
I think it's a 3" diameter tail-pipe accomodating a 2.5" silencer
[pulls neck back in]


Bugger if that's the case cos that means no extra flow. getting 3 inch perforated pipe seems to be a bit of a problem

HarryW

Original Poster:

16,028 posts

298 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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Not sure what if any extra flow is had from going from 2.5" to 3" but would be interested in the result

dc53

3,217 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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yeah me too but oh well just buy a a sport zaust and get it decatted trust me it isnt half noisy *WHAT*like ear popping noisy,and best off all flames"ha ha ha ha"!!!

Edited by dc53 on Saturday 8th July 00:13

ACT

2,529 posts

313 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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Our systems have 3" tails which means 3" external diameter,(assuming you opt for the "quiet tails" 2 1/4 " internal which is the optimum for these engines, we do a version with 3" tails without internal sleeve but very loud and no power benefit.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

253 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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HarryW said:
Autonotiv said:
So harry, have you now brought a cerb then?

Keep up at the back http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic. , just need to sell the S


Let us know when the engine is done. unless it has been done already?

So will it be at the H&C next thurs?

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

275 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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HarryW said:
Not sure what if any extra flow is had from going from 2.5" to 3" but would be interested in the result


Harry, if you are talking just about going from 2.5" to 3" inch on the tail pipe (section after the back boxes) then I would say that there would be very small if any gains.

A Std / Sports System comprises of

Intermediates Pipes (cat back) at 2.125" (2 1/8th)
Rear pipes into back box at 2.125"
Back Box (internal) at 2.125"
Tail Pipes out of back box at 2.125 into 2.5"

ACT Big Bore System

Intermediate Pipes (optional) at 2.25" (2 1/4)
Rear pipes into back box at 2.25"
Back Box at 2.25"
Tail Pipes out of back box 2.25" into 3" (silencers optional)

My System

Intermediate Pipes (yet to be fitted]) 2.5" (2 1/2)
Rear pipes into back box at 2.5"
Back box at 2.5" into 3"
Tail Pipes out of back box at 3" all the way.

The noise level does increase but it is very deceptive. Everyone who knows my car has commented that since fitting the new back section of the exhaust that the car "sounds" quieter, however this is only because the sound is now much deeper and bassier. There are also power improvements to be had by going to a larger bore system, however this will vary from car to car depending on whsat system they had fitted previously and which system you opt for. There isn't an "optimum" bore size to go for, although there may be an "optimum" noise size

Have a read of the thread I posted a couple of weeks ago about my new exhaust, this explains that improvements can be had, but in order to see it you would have to have a custom system made up, however the ACT system will also add a slight performance improvement as well as sound improvement.

I think the ACT big bore system will be your best option, but see if you can listen to one with and without silencers.

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=282272 performance improvements......

www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=280171 pictures



Edited by Cyclone1 on Saturday 8th July 07:36

HarryW

Original Poster:

16,028 posts

298 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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Autonotiv said:
HarryW said:
Autonotiv said:
So harry, have you now brought a cerb then?

Keep up at the back http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic. , just need to sell the S


Let us know when the engine is done. unless it has been done already?

So will it be at the H&C next thurs?

If I'm at the H&C next week it'll be in the S/Touring, not expecting the Cerb to done this side of August, waiting on some touring car pistons from Germany at present .

HarryW

Original Poster:

16,028 posts

298 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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Cyclone1 said:
Lots of good stuf :thuumbup:

Cheers for that Jules, I'll ponder what to do, as said/alluded an off the shelf ACT big bore is favourite at present.
I went bespoke on the S (including headers) and dont' really feel like taking the lead on this one, although I could be tempted .

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

253 months

Saturday 8th July 2006
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HarryW said:
Autonotiv said:
HarryW said:
Autonotiv said:
So harry, have you now brought a cerb then?

Keep up at the back http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic. , just need to sell the S


Let us know when the engine is done. unless it has been done already?

So will it be at the H&C next thurs?

If I'm at the H&C next week it'll be in the S/Touring, not expecting the Cerb to done this side of August, waiting on some touring car pistons from Germany at present .

shame, will be good to see/hear it