Possibly clutch problem?
Possibly clutch problem?
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Scrooloose

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888 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Got into the Cerb this morning, started it up and had real difficulty getting it into gear, especially reverse.

Drove to work, 3rd & 4th gear were fine, but 1st & 2nd required a lot more effort to get into, especially if stationary.

It was the same on the way home......

The bite point and feel of the clutch don't seem to have changed, it just seems that the clutch isn't quite totally disengaging :-(

Has anyone got any ideas?

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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I would try the cheapest option first and bleed the clutch to see if that solves the problem, if it don't then it would have to be gear box off i reckon.

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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If it's not a daft question.

How?

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Don't know which engine you have, mine is a Sp6 but if you look through my profile forums i did once write out how to bleed the clutch, or you could do a search on "clutch" and you may find out.
Thing is i am on the pda at the moment and typing is a bit iffy.

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Sounds like fingers I am afraid

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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Extra 300 Driver said:
Sounds like fingers I am afraid


Are we talking new clutch?

nelly1

5,665 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th August 2006
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mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Scrooloose said:
Extra 300 Driver said:
Sounds like fingers I am afraid


Are we talking new clutch?

It could well be fingers, if it is, then expect it to go completely very quickly. And yes, new clutch time.

But it could also be fluid, so check your level (easy enough to do) and try bleeding the system.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

277 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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This has happened to me twice now.
First time, same as you hard to engage gears whilst running (engine on)
Joolz changed the seals in the master (the one in the pedal area).
Played up again, after the Brands trackday.
Take off the air box (drivers side) cut away the bathroom sealant ,
remove cover to cylinder, if you see black bits floating about, your seals have gone.
If you can not see any fluid top up, DOT5.1 and see what happens.
I have a funny feeling a trackday or hard use of the clutch can force a bit of fluid past the seals, as I said top up and moniter.

JohnSW20

886 posts

266 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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This is what happened to mine, Hard to get into to gear and then no clutch at all. The pedal still felt firm and no loss of fluid. I bled the clutch via the nipple close to the windscreen PS it was a bitc* to open. Then sent it to the garage they had to replace the slave cylinder as well, all in £1406.00.

Sorry

John

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Well....

I'm going to attempt clutch-bleedery tonight.

I'll keep you all posted!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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I got mine back yesterday, same symptoms.

Turned out to be a duff clutch, it was only 18 months old, unlike the last one, all the fingers were perfect, the two springs had fell apart on the other side of the clutch.

I've had a new air con rad fitted as well, £2000, ouch

Apparently the chassis is in decent nick, so I'm considering keeping the car for another year.

On the plus side, the car almost managed the 20 miles home, without developing another fault

Alas, as I left the motorway I can now here a sort of "chug chugging air sound" coming from the bottom of the engine, hopefully something to do with the exhaust :fingerscrossedsmiley:

EDA, Sealant used on manifold has broken & ht lead left resting against the manifold has broken down, I'm going to set fire to the ****



Edited by RUSSELLM on Friday 11th August 17:10

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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First time I couldnt get mine in gear with the engine on. Ok when off. This turned out to be the fingers.

Second time, I was having probs selecting gears, especially when cold. Was getting worse each day. Low fluid. Topped up/bled. Ok now.

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Right.

Have just "bled" the clutch.

I say "bled" cos i ended up with most of the fluid all over myself, as my tube was marginally bigger than my nipple!

However, it now goes into gear, which it wasn't doing before.

Can't be bothered to test drive it tonight, the pubs are calling. Will give a try on the way to work tomorrow.

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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A bit late now but if your pipe is a little large for the nipple then you can keep it on with either a small tie wrap or a twist of wire around tye end.
hope your problem is now cured.

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th August 2006
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Pants. That didn't work.

The clutch pedal lasted for about five pumps before the situation had returned. So i'm guessing that there's some sort of air leakage into the system.

Time to get the wallet out again! Not to worry, I've only spent £2100 on it so far this month!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Saturday 12th August 2006
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Fancy doing a deal & smashing in to each other ?

EDA

I've just took the fire extinguisher out of the car

Edited by RUSSELLM on Saturday 12th August 11:02

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Saturday 12th August 2006
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RUSSELLM said:
Fancy doing a deal & smashing in to each other ?

EDA

I've just took the fire extinguisher out of the car

Edited by RUSSELLM on Saturday 12th August 11:02


Not yet, I've only had it for about six weeks and only spent about £2500 so far, but that did include a voluntary service.

I'm taking the view that i'll sort out all the issues with it and then it'll be a goodun!

The cash for the clutch will have to come out of my headlight conversion fund......

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

245 months

Monday 14th August 2006
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Boooger!

Have spoken to Andy at APM today.

Looks like time for a new clutch

ceejay

1,287 posts

283 months

Monday 14th August 2006
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I've just put a clutch up for sale in the classifieds section. May save you a few quid?

Ceejay