Engine Noise 2000 4.5
Engine Noise 2000 4.5
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CMG

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29 posts

240 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Being new to TVR ownership I'm not familar with the correct noise that my engine should make. Yes of course I know the that the Cerbera sounds fantastic as you hear one go past, or as I put foot down whilist driving along, but this noise is all from the exhaust. What I'm concerned about is the noise coming from under the hood! I know Cerbs can sound a little rough when cold, but to be honest, mine sounds like a bag of nails! I've only had it a couple of weeks, and bought it just after it's 12,000m service from a TVR dealership, so I'm thinking it should have been set up right before I got it. To me there is an excesivwe tapping noise and a fairly heavy vibration felt thoughout the car, even when warm.

I know it's very hard to say without hearing it yourselves, but am I being paranoid? Or is this typical?

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Nope pretty normal I'd say. Most people seem to buy sports exhausts to block out the noise. The sixes sounds very good with little rattle and a nice quite machine noise, but the AJP is a complete marble in a dustbin.

CMG

Original Poster:

29 posts

240 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Just concerned I was missing something, particularly because the oil seems next to impossible to check (any tips are welcome)

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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The only way the oil can be reliably checked is while the engine is hot and with a small bore clear plastic tube.

Open the filler poke the tube down just further than the distick would go, wait while whistling the national anthem. Then put your finger over your end of the tube to trap the oil, and pull out. Measure how far the oil is up the tube against the dipstick itself.

Word of warning don't take finger off tube unless back in the car or wearing wellies

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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CMG said:
Being new to TVR ownership I'm not familar with the correct noise that my engine should make. Yes of course I know the that the Cerbera sounds fantastic as you hear one go past, or as I put foot down whilist driving along, but this noise is all from the exhaust. What I'm concerned about is the noise coming from under the hood! I know Cerbs can sound a little rough when cold, but to be honest, mine sounds like a bag of nails! I've only had it a couple of weeks, and bought it just after it's 12,000m service from a TVR dealership, so I'm thinking it should have been set up right before I got it. To me there is an excesivwe tapping noise and a fairly heavy vibration felt thoughout the car, even when warm.

I know it's very hard to say without hearing it yourselves, but am I being paranoid? Or is this typical?



Is your exhaust touching the chassi ( could cause vibrations)

Edited by TooTall Paul on Wednesday 4th October 16:25

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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They all (AJPV8s) sound noisey from cold. Should pretty quiet once warming up. I find it a useful reminder re not revving until oil is warm.
re checking the oil - ensure car is parked on the flat (not even a slight incline/decline), leave overnight, stand on passenger side, pull out dipstick, wipe, reinsert but dont do the final twist (ie push the whole way in but dont lock it), the pull out and you should get a good reading. I tend to check it 4 or 5 times each time (which I once a week at least).

Neil P

924 posts

244 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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I thought my cams were on there way out because of the noise, but Joolz at TCS told me this is normal. If you can't hear the cams making quite a bit of noise, then they need to be changed. The opposite to a normal car.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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The vibration through the car would worry me.

GarethGTT

430 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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ridds said:
The vibration through the car would worry me.


I wonder if we are talking vibration here or Rumble?..rumble is normal

caduceus

6,126 posts

295 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Neil P said:
If you can't hear the cams making quite a bit of noise, then they need to be changed. The opposite to a normal car.


Is that right? Thats good to know. As I've heard quieter 4.5s than mine that have done double the mileage. Although I think my tappets need doing anyway.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Where abouts in London are you?
Why not pop along to the Mid Essex TVR meet on Sunday?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=312734&f=13&h=0
There's a convoy coming from South Mimms joining some others on the A12 near the M25 jtn.
There will be a few Cerbs there, 4 at least, you can listen to ours and we can tell you if yours sounds normal.

CMG

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29 posts

240 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I'm docklands way, but heading back from Leeds that morning, so will try and make it in time to meet you guys. Would be really useful to talk to someone with a genuine interest/knowledge of these cars rather than someone who is trying to sell you one - if you know what I mean.

Cheers

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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As far as I remember from the mid essex mob, it is unlikely you will hear anything of the engines.

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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ridds said:
The vibration through the car would worry me.


Again, could be something as simple as the exhaust mountings / rubbers.

CMG

Original Poster:

29 posts

240 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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The vibration is just the engine at idle, as soon as you give it some revs it sounds great and the vibration goes. Just seems excess at idle

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Could it be the engine mountings ?

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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You can get a really loud nasty vibtation at a certain rev range caused by the exhaust coming into ontact with the chassis - it's very tight under there, so check that first, if its a noisy horrible sort of vibration that you can feel through your ar*e (the sort a girl might say "Hmmm, thats nice" then it probably is the exhaust on the chassis, so get that checked.

Also all the AJP's create a resonance, a sort of low frequency vibration, at a certian rev range, particularly the earlier engines, it's more pronounced if you are acelerating in too high a gear (i.e you really should have put it into 2nd rather than leave it in 3rd, on later engines it was rectified to a certain extent by making the engine casting a bit thicker in some areas.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Julian64 said:
As far as I remember from the mid essex mob, it is unlikely you will hear anything of the engines.

Explain yourself confused

byker28i

91,557 posts

246 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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jensena said:
You can get a really loud nasty vibtation at a certain rev range caused by the exhaust coming into ontact with the chassis - it's very tight under there, so check that first, if its a noisy horrible sort of vibration that you can feel through your ar*e (the sort a girl might say "Hmmm, thats nice" then it probably is the exhaust on the chassis, so get that checked.


I'd second this. I've been adjusting my sports exhaust by just a little after I found the vibration had loosened the clamps and I'm guessing it had moved a little. It had rubbed slightly on the chassis to but mine was an annoying little clunk at certain times with throttle on/off.

PHILON

24 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Strangely enough my 4.5 Cerb Developed what sounds just the same problem last weekend. same symptom on starting but did start up ok. Mine did however also have a minor miss on full throttle also, as if there wasn't enough fuel getting through.
Haven't had chance to look at it yet but i hope it is just damp that's got in somewhere!

Best of luck!