How many road legal Speed 12's are there?
How many road legal Speed 12's are there?
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Maxeh

Original Poster:

362 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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I always thought there was just the 1, am I right in thinking that?

budaholic

1,516 posts

264 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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AFAIK yes

Maxeh

Original Poster:

362 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Thats what I always thought...but earlier I was reading an old book of mine called "Fast Cars" and stumbled across this:





Is one a replica or something?

Edited by Maxeh on Wednesday 4th October 21:34

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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No, I believe that they are both the same car. the red one is the most recent reincarnation.

Always thought it was a shame as the silver car is quite beautiful, not sure you could say the same for the red one.

Tim

ijc

1,817 posts

244 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Wouldn't mind either way if it was mine.....

dickkark

748 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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where is it now though?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I think some fella ooopp north owns it.There was a recent article in sprint about it.

*Phoenix*

3,065 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Disgustingly rich chap bought it to add to his already huge collection of supers, engine has repeatedly been a problem, back to the factory countless times... I bet he wished he never touched it...

dickkark

748 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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so am I right in thinking this car is your pheonix project now?

if so haven`t you made a few minor changes?rolleyes
and finally how the hell did you get hold of it?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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dickkark said:
so am I right in thinking this car is your pheonix project now?

if so haven`t you made a few minor changes?rolleyes
and finally how the hell did you get hold of it?
Wrong car.Ash,s car is a completely different monster.

dickkark

748 posts

250 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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so does any one know anything else about this speed 12 or is it just sitting in a warehouse or garage somewhere collecting dust?
does this cars owner actually use this thing/post on here?
just genuinely interested,as like many others always aspired to such a car myself,
what does it actually drive like etc.?
A bit of juicy detail could possibly sate my thirst for a while.

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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The road going one, is here www.speed12.info/

*Phoenix*

3,065 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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dickkark said:
so does any one know anything else about this speed 12 or is it just sitting in a warehouse or garage somewhere collecting dust?
does this cars owner actually use this thing/post on here?
just genuinely interested,as like many others always aspired to such a car myself,
what does it actually drive like etc.?
A bit of juicy detail could possibly sate my thirst for a while.


Ok, based on the recent EVO review, the car is mad to drive! They claim she's producing 200bhp at idle! (god knows)
But what is true, is the fact she is a high-compression V12 thats pushing 600+ horses... what the max is? again, god knows!

Its gotta be the madest and bravest project for a production car ever, sadly the orders didnt pour in, but the one thats now privatly owned has had severe modifications. The redeveloped the heads, no longer are they finger-followers - solid taps i heard. Completely upgraded, better than the race-version... just the suspension costs 10k+....

From what Graham said (the PR guy for the Speed12), shes ok to drive if you keep off the throttle, there is no room for error when you plant the throttle!!! yikes

Greatest TVR ever built technologically... just wish she did all the big stuff like the McLaren F1 and Veyron did, sadly this wasnt the case and thus holds claim to no world records whatsoever... I'm still trying my best to get Graham to try and get the owner to start doing some real performance tests... but after all the owners been through, I think he just wants her running tight and keep it at that... understandable.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Yeah but i thing the (original) speed 12 to be the best looking.I remember fighting through the crowds at Earls Court to see it.

*Phoenix*

3,065 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Yeah but i thing the (original) speed 12 to be the best looking.I remember fighting through the crowds at Earls Court to see it.


Yup, the original speed 12 was the best looking TVR ever hands down!
I wanted the same look for the phoenix when I started the body development, but I hit a wall of issues when we realised that its actually terrible for high-speeds! guess thats also why they threw that design out the window and went all curvy at the front.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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What sort of problems did they get? i thought it had a good aerodynamic shape.Did the original have venturi tunnels to aid down force?

Cuban

5,161 posts

280 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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*Phoenix* said:
engine has repeatedly been a problem, back to the factory countless times... I bet he wished he never touched it...

Not the case at all Ash nono

The 'problems' related to a variety of small things prior to delivery to it's owner, all of which were
over come and the car now runs and performs as it should, as a truly an awesome Supercar. yes

Those who saw it at 'Back Home' will confirm how 'user friendly' it is as it blasted up and down
the prom giving rides to a lucky few.

Still an icon and now performing as was originally intended. bow

*Phoenix*

3,065 posts

286 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Cuban said:
*Phoenix* said:
engine has repeatedly been a problem, back to the factory countless times... I bet he wished he never touched it...

Not the case at all Ash nono

The 'problems' related to a variety of small things prior to delivery to it's owner, all of which were
over come and the car now runs and performs as it should, as a truly an awesome Supercar. yes

Those who saw it at 'Back Home' will confirm how 'user friendly' it is as it blasted up and down
the prom giving rides to a lucky few.

Still an icon and now performing as was originally intended. bow


no?... ok you know best

Just the car was at the factory a fair amount, assumed it was the engine, I guess the visits were all 100mile service interals, hehe

dickkark

748 posts

250 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Thanks all,
Pheonix,just looked at your website,never realised that you had used a (standard!)cerb as a base for your project,
just caught little glimpses of posts in the past and just assumed that you had started out with a speed 12 originally.
I would like to have a look at it in the flesh as it were,
there is not much chance of getting to any meets/shows in the near future though as our first baby is due very soon and we are having a new house built at the moment which isn`t excactly going to plan as the girlfriend keeps wanting to change stuff!irkedeven the hairy arsed builders are scared of her and the architect wont answer his phone now either!rofl

must have cost you a pretty packet so far and caused a few headaches no doubt.
also nice to see some solid determination from someone for a change.
There`s too much talk of putting volvo/jag/chevy/ford engines in these cars.
Many people defend these ajp8`s to the death,I`ve been unlucky with these myself in the past and still think that its the engine the car was built for,BUT with some decent developement,
always seemed that for a 40/50K car the engine felt slightly unfinished.
(had a couple of tuscans now been faultless,funny old world isn`t it?)
What are you expecting in terms of reliability/practicality? or is it purely for sphincter excercises?
P.S. No idea what colour I would choose,but matt black would give it a sinister look until you decide,scare police horses and stuff.

carbuilder2002

80 posts

240 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Anyone know where I can get a set of Speed 12 Wheels and wheel nuts?
Have tried contacting the factory and just get told it's not possible but sureley they would not have had a bespoke one off set made so some company must have them in their stock list?

carbuilder2002