Linked decat and sports pipes - How loud are we talking?
Linked decat and sports pipes - How loud are we talking?
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mackempete

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965 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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And is it a good sound? Or does it sound like a chavs nova?

I took a set of de-cat pipes to HHC and asked them to fit them to my cerb while it was in for a few other bits and they say that they dont encourage owners to decat and have sports exhausts as its just too damn loud! lol

I've heard a friends old 4.2 that was decated and had sports pipes and his was actually quieter than mine is with just the pipes. Though the way he describes his exhaust it could have been a standard back box.

(P.S. Thanks to Vickey at trackcar for getting the decats to me so quickly thumbup)

mark.rowe

230 posts

267 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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I've got sports pipes and de-cats and it is VERY loud!
It sounds nice when your giving it some right foot, but when pottering around town slow it sounds a bit like a chav mobile going flat out!

I put a vid on PH TV the other week going under a bridge.

I've been considering getting a standard back box or the silverstone performance one to see if that sounds any better.
Or maybe even putting my cats back in.

Pops, bangs and flames are cool as it is now though cool

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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At 3/4 max revs, mine measured 107 dB on standard cats and sports pipes, vs 118 dB on linked decats and sports pipes. But TBH it sounds quieter on cruise with the linked decats IMHO. I didn't take measurements at idle speed unfortunately.

cerby4.5

1,643 posts

270 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Hiya,
I thought long and hard about this before making my purchase, as have heard some Cerberas that sound great, but are just too loud to use as an everday car (which I do).

I went for the linked de-cats (from TCS, when I had the short induction kit fitted) along with the ACT big-bore sports exhaust + intermediate pipes, and I am very happy with them! They seem to be a great compromise.

The linked de-cats are slightly quieter and quite civilised at start up and idle (useful on early morning departures to the office), but get it beyond 3/4000 rpm and all hell is let loose! The big bore pipes give a much deeper tone and are not as 'raspy' as some sports pipes I have heard. Plus as they are replacements I still have the std backbox/intermediate pipes and cats if I ever need them or wish to sell the car!

I have heard a few where the baffles have been removed from the std backbox and whilst they sound great, if you want to put the car back to its original spec you'd need to buy another backbox (which seem quite difficult to come by).

I hope that this helps,
Cerby4.5


Edited by cerby4.5 on Tuesday 31st October 13:37

hbeck

424 posts

252 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Went from totally standard to linked de-cat on standard b/box, not much difference over standard setup IMO, so went to sports exhaust........ perfect

Loudest = decat with sports exhaust (especially if you go for the big bore ACT system) makes you deaf!

You have to shout to hold a conversation with the passenger.

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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My car is on normal decat pipes plus a sports exhaust. It is VERY VERY loud. It is (was!) burning some oil which also encouraged the explosions on lift off. APM was emabrrased when driving my car to the MOT place as it was far too loud. I am a show off so I dont normally mind but sometimes I do wish I could arrive without attracting so much attention.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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bliss how it should have been made cloud9cloud9cloud9cloud9

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Like this thread! I`ve got sports pipes at the mo, what sort of volume increase will I get with a de-cat ? (as a percentage)

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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I already answered. 10dB = 10 times the sound pressure.

c3ber

4,714 posts

252 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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YOUR TALKING VERY LOUD to hear over sports pipes.

My cerb has its cats in place but has sports pipes and it sounds just bliss. It has a deep growl and pops and bangs like a cerb should.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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mark r skinner said:
Like this thread! I`ve got sports pipes at the mo, what sort of volume increase will I get with a de-cat ? (as a percentage)
30%

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Tuesday 31st October 2006
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Personally I cant understand this obsession with LOUD, thats all it is a LOUD noise. SUre everyone looks at you, but dont think that means they are inpressed! Are you impressed whwne you hear a max Powered Nova with 12" bore exhaust> I bet you looked though. The only people who think it sounds better are his mates. Most of the general public are just not inpressed with NOISE. Loud doesnt make the car any faster, so why bother? Sports exhause sound OK, best combo is decat linked pipes and Std rear box.

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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jensena said:
Personally I cant understand this obsession with LOUD, thats all it is a LOUD noise. SUre everyone looks at you, but dont think that means they are inpressed! Are you impressed whwne you hear a max Powered Nova with 12" bore exhaust> I bet you looked though. The only people who think it sounds better are his mates. Most of the general public are just not inpressed with NOISE. Loud doesnt make the car any faster, so why bother? Sports exhause sound OK, best combo is decat linked pipes and Std rear box.


I'm not convinced that people think, whats that noise and have the same reaction whether its a nova or a supercar. I think most people would see a cerb coming round the corner and think that the noise was appropriate for the car. Though i do think this perception would change depending on how early in the morning it was making this noise

I also agree that the noise a little car with a big exahust makes isnt nice. Its almost like a kid wearing adults clothes, they think they look the business but everyone else thinks they look daft!

markytop

637 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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mark r skinner said:
Like this thread! I`ve got sports pipes at the mo, what sort of volume increase will I get with a de-cat ? (as a percentage)


Mark - I am having de-cat pipes fitted to mine on Monday, will pop up to the Post hopefully next Thursday (seems a long time since I made an appearance) so you can have a look / listen etc.

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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markytop said:
mark r skinner said:
Like this thread! I`ve got sports pipes at the mo, what sort of volume increase will I get with a de-cat ? (as a percentage)


Mark - I am having de-cat pipes fitted to mine on Monday, will pop up to the Post hopefully next Thursday (seems a long time since I made an appearance) so you can have a look / listen etc.
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ajp4.2

296 posts

242 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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Are there any advantages having linked de-cat pipes instead of 2 single pipes?

c3ber

4,714 posts

252 months

Wednesday 1st November 2006
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ajp4.2 said:
Are there any advantages having linked de-cat pipes instead of 2 single pipes?


All to do with balance I believe but will stand corrected. I first saw linked pipes in America on custom cars and I was wondering can you have linked pipes that are not de-catted?

cramorra

1,689 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Do you need to remap the car or change the ECU if you fit decats???

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Saturday 11th November 2006
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hbeck said:
Went from totally standard to linked de-cat on standard b/box, not much difference over standard setup IMO, so went to sports exhaust........ perfect

Loudest = decat with sports exhaust (especially if you go for the big bore ACT system) makes you deaf!

You have to shout to hold a conversation with the passenger.



I agree - not a lot of difference (LD + SBB), but sounds more classy/expensive - if you know what I mean...

Might go for sports exhaust - but which one?

MB

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Saturday 11th November 2006
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marcus1970 said:
hbeck said:
Went from totally standard to linked de-cat on standard b/box, not much difference over standard setup IMO, so went to sports exhaust........ perfect

Loudest = decat with sports exhaust (especially if you go for the big bore ACT system) makes you deaf!

You have to shout to hold a conversation with the passenger.



I agree - not a lot of difference (LD + SBB), but sounds more classy/expensive - if you know what I mean...

Might go for sports exhaust - but which one?

MB

I suppose it depends on what you call loud. I know the ACT big bore cat back sports exhaust give a very deep bass note ears which is nice, but probably too loud for me (and the neighbours hehe). Tim now does a version that has a bit of extra silencing in the tail pipes which I'm fitting to mine, which quietens it down a fair bit, but it still has a nice deep note to it.
If you're not in hurry I'll record it when its fitted so you can listen, but that is a few weeks away yet.