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brakedust300

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1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Hay people
just thought i better introduce myself before i ask 1000 questions!

Im Brett, living in scotland and im in the Air Force

and i need some advice!

im curently looking at getting either a TVR cerbera 4.5 or a jaguar XKR, they are both about the same price for an older one, my main concern is running costs (not including petrol!)

my friend has a TVR chimera, and has had no problems so far, but i have heard that the cerbera is a very expensive car to run as there are many things that can (and do) break?

so i thought i would ask the people that will know...

i have heard that the tappets need adjusting every 12000 miles, how much do people roughly pay for that?

and roughly how much a year (ill be doing about 6000 miles a year) dos your cerbera cost you?

sorry about all the questions straight away!

hope you can offer some help

Brett

jesfirth

1,743 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Cerberas are not a car to be run on a budget unless you can do much of the work your self. most people seem to reckon about £3000 pa as an average for maintenance.

A cerb and a Jag are very different. The cerb will blow the socks off any Jag-in performance terms they are not even close.

it depends what you want out of a car.

brakedust300

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1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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in a propulsion technician in the RAF so will undertake most things myself,

The jag is realy 2nd choice, mainly because you can only get them in auto!

but £3000 is probably double what i will have to spend on repairs and servicings in a year, so am i best off staying away from the cerbera?

NHyde

1,427 posts

277 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Pay has obviously gone up since I left HM Royal Air Farce hehe

Get the Cerbera , nothing should be beyond a sumpy as long as you have the space and access to a lift .( Do they still have motor clubs?)

gbbird

5,197 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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That £3k pa is also an average. Could be more, could be less. In my experience, my average maintenance has been about £1.5k, and i know very little about cars so do none of the work myself

brakedust300

Original Poster:

1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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pays still crap! ill just get a big loan!

iv got big garage (not quite a double) and iv just started to build a pit so should have enough space to do most things myself

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Find one that has had the expensive jobs done and you could be well under the £3K a year.

Also totally depends on the mileage you'll do.

THe main problem is buying all the little things you really don't need to. laugh

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Bloody hell, I wish PH didnt have that car blog thingy (or maybe I shouldnt enter info in there?). Cost me £10k in 2.5 years yikes

Mind, out of that about £5k is engine and suspension upgrades hehe

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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brakedust300 said:
pays still crap! ill just get a big loan!

iv got big garage (not quite a double) and iv just started to build a pit so should have enough space to do most things myself

If you're doing a lot of the work yourself with a pit available (lots of jobs need easy underneath access) and you use these forums for support/hints, then you will be fine with a Cerbera. Be fussy when you buy, there's plenty of choice.

You will laugh at XKRs when you've done the deed. yes

Your future problem will only be: WTF do I replace a Cerbera with?

brakedust300

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1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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what car blog thing? i havent driven either cars at the moment, and im nervous about driving a cerbera as i can see myself falling in love with it, iv just sold m 520 BHP 300zx so i want something to replace that, but in 4 years all i had to replace was the clutch! (although i did spend about 8000 on mods)

and i was also thinking about (and dont shoot me for this if its realy such a bad idea!)

lpg?? iv looked into it and there is a 4.2 that has been converted..... i know... i know... if you cant aford the fuel then you cant aford the car, but my house has LPG heating and we get it for 17p a litre!

'cringes waiting for torent of "DONT BE SO STUPID"'

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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No!No!No! LPG? what are you thinking of?Seriously if you want a Cerbera its got to be with your heart rather than your head.Ive suffered a few niggles and problems with mine during ownership that if it would have been on a lesser car would have been binned long ago.The question ive often asked myself is,if i were to sell what could i replace it with?And the reality for me is nothing.You really have got to want one to take one on.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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brakedust300 said:
what car blog thing? "'


In 'My Cars' bit of your profile you can stick in it all your costs as a blog (whatever they may be?). Not sure if this blog thing can be seen by others or just seen by yourself?

brakedust300

Original Poster:

1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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my heart would be totaly in it, i just dont want my wallet to join it!
im sure most of u are fed up with people people trying to cut corners when looking to buy a cerbera, i just dont want to have a cerbera as a driveway statue because i cant aford to run her, im only on 24k and i have a house as well, iv got a pug 406 diesel that i use to get to and from work.

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Seriously - even doing it yourself servicing could mean a cerb is too expensive for you. Converting to LPG might be sensible but wont win you any friends here!

brakedust300

Original Poster:

1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Ok fellas, well thankyou for your advice, its much appreciated, its probably saved me a lot of time, i think i will have to go down the XKR avenue (or AC cobra replia) as the cerbera sounds to expensive for me to run, guess ill have to get a better paid job first!

cheers again
Brett

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Hold on hold on, don't talk yourself out of it. The Cerb and the XK are different beasts (although I do admit to eyeing up the XK when I was looking just cos it would be the sensible option). But at the end of the day if your heart is telling you Cerb then stick with it, I think the most costly mistakes can often be trying to be sensible and making the wrong choice and not being happy.

Now if you are handy with a spanner and have access (or will have) to a pit then I am not so sure you should talk yourself out of it (or let us talk you out of it) just yet. Now you also say you have spent 8K on your last car in mods over the last few years so it's not like you are scared of throwing money at things.

Not saying you def should and it will be just rosy, just don't rule it out quite yet. Drive them both and see what your think. What would your actual budget be for buying if you don't mind me asking?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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brakedust300 said:
Ok fellas, well thankyou for your advice, its much appreciated, its probably saved me a lot of time, i think i will have to go down the XKR avenue (or AC cobra replia) as the cerbera sounds to expensive for me to run, guess ill have to get a better paid job first!

cheers again
Brett
Dont forget Jags had there problems as well.Nickasil lining wear in the bores.Result=New engine.Have you considered a Chimaera? Cerbera type looks with the added bonus of being soft top great sound and a lot cheaper to run.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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I agree TC. The crucial bit about Cerbera ownership cost is the cost of paying somebody else to deal with the niggles - and that's pretty much all the much-talked about 'faults' are. Avoid an S6, if it's a 4.2 try and ABSOLUTELY ascertain it's got a fat-journal crank. Check the engine compressions, have a bloody good look for chassis rot and I reckon you can't go wrong.

Cerberas end up on low loaders for penny parts like oil pressure relief spring and 100A fuse faults. Bastard jobs like diff bushes are labour consumers but if you're not paying somebody else, standing in yer own pit for a day ain't the end of the world to replace a part that costs less than £30.

Christ, every Cerbera fault has an answer in this forum and a growing number of people who've DIY'd those answers.

teacher Don't buy a Jag!

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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BossCerbera said:
I agree TC. The crucial bit about Cerbera ownership cost is the cost of paying somebody else to deal with the niggles - and that's pretty much all the much-talked about 'faults' are. Avoid an S6, if it's a 4.2 try and ABSOLUTELY ascertain it's got a fat-journal crank. Check the engine compressions, have a bloody good look for chassis rot and I reckon you can't go wrong.

Cerberas end up on low loaders for penny parts like oil pressure relief spring and 100A fuse faults. Bastard jobs like diff bushes are labour consumers but if you're not paying somebody else, standing in yer own pit for a day ain't the end of the world to replace a part that costs less than £30.

Christ, every Cerbera fault has an answer in this forum and a growing number of people who've DIY'd those answers.

teacher Don't buy a Jag!
This crank problem? was it a known problem to TVR? and wait for it....Before you laugh did they do a recall and rectify the problem.......?Thought you would laugh.Or do i wait till it goes bang?

brakedust300

Original Poster:

1,059 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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ok i wont give up yet....
ill have upto 17000 to spend, so ill be looking at the bottom end of the 4.5 market for that price.
ill keep you all posted on what goes on....