Which Starter Motor?
Which Starter Motor?
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SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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I need a new one (again!) and have several options...

Option 1
Standard Nissan Maxima Starter from Wood Auto Supplies £144 + VAT exchange

Option 2
Buy one from TVR Power £220 + VAT exchange (Nil stock so they'll need to recon yours)

Option 3
RaceMettle do an uprated one with increased cranking power etc, for £374 + VAT exchange.

So Guys, I need to make a decision on which way to go but would like a more powerful one (hopefully last longer) but not at £374.

Last two starters lasted 12 months and 1500 miles. (Same starter just reconditioned)

Cheers
Si

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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As Julian said in another post nobody actually knows why these fail. I think they are all the same be it nissan or torque starter etc, mine were identical internally !

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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I'd go for the cheaper one. It's the only one that has been field and quality tested to any extent.

The others are one off race or hand built jobs.

You should have a certain amount of guarantee with the Nissan one too.

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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ridds said:
I'd go for the cheaper one. It's the only one that has been field and quality tested to any extent.

The others are one off race or hand built jobs.

You should have a certain amount of guarantee with the Nissan one too.


Thats what I'd go for - I would think a Nissan one would be a lot more reliable.

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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Glad you said that! I would hate to have paid over twice as much only to find it's no better!

Si

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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ridds said:
You should have a certain amount of guarantee with the Nissan one too.
Surely it's only guaranteed if you fit in a Nissan Maxima though? Don't think Nissan would be very impressed if you returned one dead and they found you'd been using it to turn over the engine of a JCB or something.

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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carl_w said:
ridds said:
You should have a certain amount of guarantee with the Nissan one too.
Surely it's only guaranteed if you fit in a Nissan Maxima though? Don't think Nissan would be very impressed if you returned one dead and they found you'd been using it to turn over the engine of a JCB or something.


Good point, but they would never know!

Steve_T

6,356 posts

301 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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I thought the recommended approach was to stick with the original Tilton Super Starter and get it reconditioned by Eurolec (was it Eurolec). Anyway on the last thread on starter motors, the Tilton was pointed out by some to be far more durable, with a life time in years rather than the months of the Nissan jobbie. I could be talking nonsense, but it's definitely worth a poke about in the archives.

Steve.

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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Steve_T said:
I thought the recommended approach was to stick with the original Tilton Super Starter and get it reconditioned by Eurolec (was it Eurolec). Anyway on the last thread on starter motors, the Tilton was pointed out by some to be far more durable, with a life time in years rather than the months of the Nissan jobbie. I could be talking nonsense, but it's definitely worth a poke about in the archives.

Steve.


I've got a TILTON racing type in mine and its lasted 18 months and still going strong. It starts the car every time with no problems. I know a man that has a reconditioned one that he may sell to you if you're interested...

MB

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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18 months! the starter motor on my Jap 3.2 V6 has been turning the starter motor every day since 1994 and 140,000 miles - still going strong
Is it just the heat that causes our Cerb Motors to burn out?

RZD

141 posts

297 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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They can't all be that bad? Can they???
Mine is the original factory fit and has so far lasted over 6 years without fail.
What goes wrong with them? Is it the starter solenoid switch that overheats??????

Just curious, and hoping that the inevitable won't happen.........(quickly touching wood and hoping that my Cerb will still start!!!)

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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marcus1970 said:
Steve_T said:
I thought the recommended approach was to stick with the original Tilton Super Starter and get it reconditioned by Eurolec (was it Eurolec). Anyway on the last thread on starter motors, the Tilton was pointed out by some to be far more durable, with a life time in years rather than the months of the Nissan jobbie. I could be talking nonsense, but it's definitely worth a poke about in the archives.

Steve.


I've got a TILTON racing type in mine and its lasted 18 months and still going strong. It starts the car every time with no problems. I know a man that has a reconditioned one that he may sell to you if you're interested...

MB


I'm interested, why not ask him to email me! please. Si

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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You'd may as well shop around and try and get a cheaper Nissan Maxima starter motor, there are a few of us with these fitted now, some for more than a year and so far no problems.

Most of the refurbed Tilton Starters seem to be failing pretty quickly, so you have to ask the question of how well are they being refurbed, what is actually being refurbed, are they being refurbed with inferior parts or is the starter motor just not up to scratch in the first place, it's possibly a combination of all.

For me it was easy, £200-£350 for a TVR Tilton Starter or £75 for a Nissan Starter.........anybody's guess as to which would last the longest, but so far the Nissans being going strong for about a year.

Jules.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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Cyclone1 said:
You'd may as well shop around and try and get a cheaper Nissan Maxima starter motor, there are a few of us with these fitted now, some for more than a year and so far no problems.

Most of the refurbed Tilton Starters seem to be failing pretty quickly, so you have to ask the question of how well are they being refurbed, what is actually being refurbed, are they being refurbed with inferior parts or is the starter motor just not up to scratch in the first place, it's possibly a combination of all.

For me it was easy, £200-£350 for a TVR Tilton Starter or £75 for a Nissan Starter.........anybody's guess as to which would last the longest, but so far the Nissans being going strong for about a year.

Jules.


Did you wet the bed this morning (4.16 AM !!!) laughlaugh

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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Cyclone1 said:
You'd may as well shop around and try and get a cheaper Nissan Maxima starter motor, there are a few of us with these fitted now, some for more than a year and so far no problems.

Most of the refurbed Tilton Starters seem to be failing pretty quickly, so you have to ask the question of how well are they being refurbed, what is actually being refurbed, are they being refurbed with inferior parts or is the starter motor just not up to scratch in the first place, it's possibly a combination of all.

For me it was easy, £200-£350 for a TVR Tilton Starter or £75 for a Nissan Starter.........anybody's guess as to which would last the longest, but so far the Nissans being going strong for about a year.

Jules.


Hi Jules, You say £75 for a Nissan one! The cheapest I've found is £143 + VAT, who has them for £75?

Si

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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Mine cost £150 ish. Wish i'd known where to get it that cheap.

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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Simon, I've sent you an email with a few details...

MB

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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marcus1970 said:
Simon, I've sent you an email with a few details...

MB

If you know of a cheap source let us all know please

SI-PEN

Original Poster:

1,009 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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OK guys, important info on the difference between different supplies of starter motors.

Nissan type...normally rated to suit said car with power rating of 1.4Kw, lasts forever on Nissan and very varied on Cerbera.

Original TVR type...uprated version of nissan type with power rating of 1.6Kw, there's a new one for sale on ebay at present, starting price at £225, brand new with no exchange required.

Uprated TVR type...sold by Auto electrical on ebay, power rating of 1.7Kw and £239 brand new with no exchange required. They tell me that they supply this to the TVR dealers as it is correctly rated to cope with the high compression rating. I've ordered this one!

Uprated type from RaceMettle...£374 + VAT, light weight and fully uprated. Price is exchange for your old one!

I've studied all the photos of these different starters and they do all vary slightly! The most different is the Racemettle one which would need to be to be lighter in weight! The other differences you can see are only the outer casing and the size in length of the solenoid!

Hope this helps.
Si

raw cerb

603 posts

277 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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SI-PEN said:
OK guys, important info on the difference between different supplies of starter motors.

Nissan type...normally rated to suit said car with power rating of 1.4Kw, lasts forever on Nissan and very varied on Cerbera.

Original TVR type...uprated version of nissan type with power rating of 1.6Kw, there's a new one for sale on ebay at present, starting price at £225, brand new with no exchange required.

Uprated TVR type...sold by Auto electrical on ebay, power rating of 1.7Kw and £239 brand new with no exchange required. They tell me that they supply this to the TVR dealers as it is correctly rated to cope with the high compression rating. I've ordered this one!

Uprated type from RaceMettle...£374 + VAT, light weight and fully uprated. Price is exchange for your old one!

I've studied all the photos of these different starters and they do all vary slightly! The most different is the Racemettle one which would need to be to be lighter in weight! The other differences you can see are only the outer casing and the size in length of the solenoid!

Hope this helps.
Si


Grateful if you can let me know how you get on, as mine is behaving suspectly, and I may just replace now before it let's me down (which no doubt would be in the most public place possible)