Rebuild time but to what spec?
Rebuild time but to what spec?
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Billy_rfc

Original Poster:

587 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th November 2006
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Hey guys, My engine is being remove this week due to a sheared head stud and I've been recommended to get a rebuild while the engine is out.

Now the car is a 4.2 but I love the thought of upping the displacement. I know that Power do the .2 to .5 upgrade but I think I should go for more! Well I want more anyway!

Who should I be talking too? Who can I ship the engine to that will do the business for me?

All info much appreciated.

Billy.

longbow

1,610 posts

264 months

Saturday 25th November 2006
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I think with the scarcity of AJP parts these days, TVR Power would be your best bet, although the conversion isn't cheap. You'd be paying the best part of 6k for a potential power increase of 40hp or so, after mods. Have you considered blueprinting your 4.2 for increased performance and reliability?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Saturday 25th November 2006
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Why would they need to take the engine out just for a sheared head bolt? And whats the cost of a basic rebuild?

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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Basic rebuild costs? Depends what is worn ! Heads are expensive as are cranks. If it is just basic stuff like valve guides then you could be looking at 2.5K ? Top dollar = £6K if loads of stuff needs replacing. Or you could pay for a 'white rose' 5ltr. Or you could go to Craft and pay £10K.

southendpier

6,208 posts

258 months

Sunday 26th November 2006
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keep it original. sorted and strong -but original. should be able to coax 360 horses out of it. why stress it with more? seem to be fewer and fewer around. lets protect those that remain. IMHO

billy_rfc

Original Poster:

587 posts

284 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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gazzab said:
Or you could pay for a 'white rose' 5ltr. Or you could go to Craft and pay £10K.


So whats the deal with the white rose? Who does this then?

Billy.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Monday 27th November 2006
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Buy the one in the classifieds

focused

1,410 posts

311 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Speak to Paul at Austec. I had a top end rebuild this year and decided to go for a power upgrade at the same time, not sure what he did, even though he did tell me Ported and rings, plus some other stuff, I think. I also had it remapped. BHP was 326 before, took it to SRR after and got 411.9 Mine is a 4.5 btw

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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TooTall Paul said:
Buy the one in the classifieds


Beautiful car TT, If I didn't have mine I'd go for yours. By the way ever thought about selling the spare engine seperately?

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Julian64 said:
TooTall Paul said:
Buy the one in the classifieds


Beautiful car TT, If I didn't have mine I'd go for yours. By the way ever thought about selling the spare engine seperately?


Thanks Julian, i thought it may sell a little easier with the spare engine, do you think it's about the right sort of money ?

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Wow - that looks too cheap !! Especially with the spare engine.
Assuming your cerb is in great nick and that the engine is great then I would have thought you could charge a premium as is for such a one off ? OK not a huge premium. So maybe £16.5K is a realistic price as is? But I would deffo sell the engine separately. If it is a good engine then you could get quite a few quid for it

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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TooTall Paul said:
Julian64 said:
TooTall Paul said:
Buy the one in the classifieds


Beautiful car TT, If I didn't have mine I'd go for yours. By the way ever thought about selling the spare engine seperately?


Thanks Julian, i thought it may sell a little easier with the spare engine, do you think it's about the right sort of money ?


That's a difficult question I don't feel even half way qualified to answer. Its definately a buyers market with Cerbs at the moment if you look in the classifieds, and there are some crackers like yours out there for sale. Just like Satman etc I would say your car is worth more than you will get for it at the moment.

but as far as the spare engine goes I would sell seperately or on ebay. The engine is only going to be sort after by a certain type of owner. Normal Cerb buyers may not even have space for an engine lying around.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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gazzab said:
Wow - that looks too cheap !! Especially with the spare engine.
Assuming your cerb is in great nick and that the engine is great then I would have thought you could charge a premium as is for such a one off ? OK not a huge premium. So maybe £16.5K is a realistic price as is? But I would deffo sell the engine separately. If it is a good engine then you could get quite a few quid for it

It's priced to sell, the spare engine is in perfect running order also.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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Sorry for hyjacking your thread billy, so buy mine and kill 2 birds with one stone and own two Cerbs eek
afast one for winter and an even faster one for summer

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th November 2006
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TooTall Paul said:
Sorry for hyjacking your thread billy, so buy mine and kill 2 birds with one stone and own two Cerbs eek
afast one for winter and an even faster one for summer


Out of interest is the spare engine a 4.2 or 4.5 and how many miles?

Billy_rfc

Original Poster:

587 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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TooTall_Paul said:
Sorry for hyjacking your thread billy, so buy mine and kill 2 birds with one stone and own two Cerbs
afast one for winter and an even faster one for summer


Wish I had the money to have that sort of luxury!

Anyway, its coming down to crunch time and decisions have to be made. Two companies stand out at the moment, Austec and Autocraft. Have spoke to both and am torn between the two so all advice is helpful.
Austec are going down the 4.5 route with all there custom internals and head work.
Autocraft are offering a 5 litre job with all the trimmings too.
There aint much in the price to swing it so...

Advice needed please cos the engine is being shipped out by the end of the week!

Billy.

TooTall Paul

938 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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5.0 litre, if you go for less you'll always wish you hadn't

gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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am suprised that you can get the work at craft for the same money as austec.
For me I would be weighing up the cv s of both outfits to make the call.
Although it is probably a lot of money - why dont you buy tootallpauls. Take his engine, put it in yours, put his spare engine back in his, sell it for a couple of grand less and bobs your aunty.

Billy_rfc

Original Poster:

587 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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gazzab said:
am suprised that you can get the work at craft for the same money as austec.

Not the same money, theres a grand in it.

TJW

3,848 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th November 2006
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Its a hard choice, its upto you. People can persuade you what to choose but its your final choice, go with your heart, if you want the feeling of saying (mines a 5.0ltr, go for that) if you want to say (mines full of custom bits go with Austec)


With both You wont be disappointed.