how many cerbera's
how many cerbera's
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ssavill

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287 posts

255 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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Ok - so hope this is not a dumb question - anyone know (roughly or otherwise) how many cerbera's were made as a total number? Just interested really!

Thanks,

Stuart.

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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Dont know how many exactly, but i do know theres less than 400 on the roads, and that numbers going down rapidly....

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

280 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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Eh....? I thought there were 2000-odd built. Where does the 400 figure come from?

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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Ffirg 005 said:
Eh....? I thought there were 2000-odd built. Where does the 400 figure come from?


2000 odd were never built, thats cloud nine thinking. As far as I'm aware, they made a huge number of chassis's, but the number of cars which rolled out were less by a margin, something like that. I think the real number was less than 1500, to be exact is not easy, unless someones got access to TVR's database or paperbase.

Check with DVLA, they have a record of all registered Cerberas, they'll give you a number of currently registered and active cars, say its for a car club, maybe they can do a search on their system and give us a factual number. Would be interesting to know if my 400 figure is about right.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

280 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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OK, fair enough - but is 400 a guess or based on something?

SXS

3,065 posts

286 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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Ffirg 005 said:
OK, fair enough - but is 400 a guess or based on something?


I cant remember where the number came from, but it was a group of reputable chaps.
Each year a huge number dissapear off the roads, for what reasons god knows, bar the obvious write-offs. You'd be amazed at how many are crashed within a week of ownership, most sales these days are done to non-phers... thats when it all goes wrong.

I got a mate who can probably find out the number, i'll see what he can do for us.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

280 months

Monday 11th December 2006
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The 2000 figure came up in what seemed an educated discussion here quite a while back, but no hard facts there either so would be real interesting to know. Any of our Blackpool PHers here have access to this info? Can't imagine it would be commercially sensitive info now...

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

272 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Hi Don wavey How's the project going in NZ?

The exact number built was posted somewhere on PH in the last few months by a factory insider. It was 1,4?? IIRC.

I don't believe 1,000 have been destroyed, I could believe that 1,000 have been crashed though.

Ffirg 005

2,013 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Howdy Phil,

[thread hijack]
Coming along... I've got together all the components now including a tweaked (450hp) LS6, T56 trans & Gaz dampers. Body is completely stripped out, repairs to fire damage done, and just started the sanding/filling/fairing the bodywork while waiting for some of the chassis & engine components to arrive. Could do with one or two of those Blackpool boys out here to give me a hand tho as it's literally a complete rebuild. Free food and board...
[/thread hijack]

methodwares

583 posts

273 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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SXS said:
Ffirg 005 said:
Eh....? I thought there were 2000-odd built. Where does the 400 figure come from?


2000 odd were never built, thats cloud nine thinking. As far as I'm aware, they made a huge number of chassis's, but the number of cars which rolled out were less by a margin, something like that. I think the real number was less than 1500, to be exact is not easy, unless someones got access to TVR's database or paperbase.

Check with DVLA, they have a record of all registered Cerberas, they'll give you a number of currently registered and active cars, say its for a car club, maybe they can do a search on their system and give us a factual number. Would be interesting to know if my 400 figure is about right.


didn't one of the guys (worked/ran the cerb line at the factory) that runs automedon say 1996 had been build? That number kinda stuck in my head as being somewhere around the first year the cerb was released to the general public. its in a thread from a while back, just can't be bother looking.

hbeck

424 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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methodwares said:
SXS said:
Ffirg 005 said:
Eh....? I thought there were 2000-odd built. Where does the 400 figure come from?


2000 odd were never built, thats cloud nine thinking. As far as I'm aware, they made a huge number of chassis's, but the number of cars which rolled out were less by a margin, something like that. I think the real number was less than 1500, to be exact is not easy, unless someones got access to TVR's database or paperbase.

Check with DVLA, they have a record of all registered Cerberas, they'll give you a number of currently registered and active cars, say its for a car club, maybe they can do a search on their system and give us a factual number. Would be interesting to know if my 400 figure is about right.


didn't one of the guys (worked/ran the cerb line at the factory) that runs automedon say 1996 had been build? That number kinda stuck in my head as being somewhere around the first year the cerb was released to the general public. its in a thread from a while back, just can't be bother looking.



Seem to remember that figure of 1996 as being mentioned as well

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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BossCerbera said:
I don't believe 1,000 have been destroyed, I could believe that 1,000 have been crashed though.
It seems a high figure initially but I believe that, for example, there are less than 250 Escort Cosworths left out of a production run of over 7,000

keithyboy

1,940 posts

299 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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1996 yes take a look here: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=321595&r=4260960&hm=12990#4260960 I asked the question when I first got my Cerb

big_treacle

1,727 posts

289 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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So at what point do our cars become so rare that they become more valuable? Not that I'd want to sell it. It'd just be cool to hold on to a car that became rare because of the winter cull.

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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Do you think there was a grand plan to produce 1996 cars, 1996 being the year the car was launched?

johnbear

1,568 posts

264 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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nemasis said:

trackcar.....prefer hugs(maybe a drink first,break the ice,then maybe a meal in a quiet restaurant)sorry gettin carried away.............trooperiziz....total number of cerberas made was 1996 up to and including the very last one(chassis1410)still in the factory........spartacus......powder coat is a nightmare to get adhesion on metal,basically trial and error,fortunately they have got that sorted now.they now sandblast all chassis and powdercoated bits and it doesnt come off......headcase.....schematics,somewhere i think i have got them let me see if i can find them,will let u know if i find them.thats all the questions answered i will now take one question from the floor.......the gentleman in the flowery blouse?????

nemasis said:

have left the factory 3 weeks ago thankfully to set up atvr service centre in blackpool,plug time,www.automedon.co.uk end of plug,with another ex factory guy.

carl_w

10,744 posts

287 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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johnbear said:
nemasis said:
end of plug
If only that was true! rofl

Mr.Cerbera

5,151 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th December 2006
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SXS said:
Dont know how many exactly, but i do know theres less than 400 on the roads, and that numbers going down rapidly....

The problem is DVLC don't know everything, like the number of cars taken abroad ? (less than 400 plus 1)

Edited by Mr.Cerbera on Tuesday 12th December 15:55

Tokyokev

138 posts

266 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Mr.Cerbera said:
SXS said:
Dont know how many exactly, but i do know theres less than 400 on the roads, and that numbers going down rapidly....

The problem is DVLC don't know everything, like the number of cars taken abroad ? (less than 400 plus 1)

Edited by Mr.Cerbera on Tuesday 12th December 15:55



In my 4 years in Japan, I have seen aprox. 11-12 Cerbs for sale, and I religiously browse the local Autotrader so I know I haven't missed many on the market. i was looking for a good one for 18months...they tend to go on sale new, then sold after 4-5000km and no-one picks them up...really scary car for the Japanese. There are probably not many hidden in garages around the country. And I also counted 8 Cerbs on the Japan TVRCC website - pictures of TVR's at one of their meets.

So combined:

For sale today, there are 2 x 1996 4.2's & 1 x 2002 4.5 - In the past, I have seen 3 SpeedSixes and 4 x 4.5's. (Including mine) up for grabs.

Total for sale currently/previously: 11
TVRCC: 8
Hidden in garages: 3

So, my very uneducated guess is 22 for number of Cerbs in Japan.

Mind you, I have never, ever seen another Cerb on the road here...many tuscans and chims, Sagaris' and a few T350's.

Best

K

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th December 2006
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Kev, off topic, I'm afraid, but can you do me a favour please.

The missus is after a Daihatsu Copen, but an Automatic, but we've only got the manual's here. Can you tell me how much they start from please, or a web site for their classifieds.

Thanks
Russell