cerbera prices
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was at a well known main dealers last week, mot for the cerb. the boss asked if i was interested in selling my car as he had a list of customers waiting for a nice cerb.he said if i was interested he could have the car sold by the afternoon. if he was telling the truth why are cerb prices still falling? he said he was selling hardly any new cars but demand for good used v8s was high. will the cerb ever become a true classic or will just become an old and dated sports car from a long dead car maker? what do you think?
The Cerb was a classic the moment the first one rolled out of Bristol Ave. I really don't know why people are almost 'giving them away' at the moment. However that said in a few years once te Chavs and wannabees get hold of a few, and at the rate they are being written off....they will become rather rare and as such prices will soar.
wish i could afford to buy half a dozen, stick them in a barn somewhere and wait 10 years....but then that'd be like putting a tiger in a zoo....very unfair
wish i could afford to buy half a dozen, stick them in a barn somewhere and wait 10 years....but then that'd be like putting a tiger in a zoo....very unfair
Edited by cooky on Friday 26th January 16:06
I hope you guys are right. have had mine now for 4 yrs. and intend to keep the car into old age. did think about selling some of my toys including the cerb to buy a diablo or fezzer, but after hearing how much the lambo costs to run and that afezzers build quality makes a tvr build look like a mercs, i think i will stay with my cerb and hope that one day your predictions come true.
RUSSELLM said:
Depends what car/cars you're trying to compare the Cerb to.
Mine was £33,440 in 96, 11 years later, it's probably woth £10,500... you're looking at about £2k a year.
Apart from Morgan, what else had held it's price that well ?
I'll give you a list of hundreds that haven't.
Mine was £33,440 in 96, 11 years later, it's probably woth £10,500... you're looking at about £2k a year.
Apart from Morgan, what else had held it's price that well ?
I'll give you a list of hundreds that haven't.
my old e- type for one. also my harley is worth the same now as it cost 10 yrs ago. a mate of mine has just been offered £1000 more for his harley than he paid for it 17 yrs ago. and another rep jag i have has made just under £10,000 since i bought it 10yrs ago. but to be fair of course no modern car will hold its value appart from something extremly rare or desireable. i just cant see why cerb prices have dropped so much.
I was told by a dealer that if you want to keep the price of your Cerb up, then keep it as original as possible. Obviously most of us have upgraded suspension and different alloys (especially in light of the fact that TVR 18" RLs where prone to cracking) and these are recognised as essential upgrades. However short induction kits and replacement ECUs are - apparently - a diferent story and could effect prices in years to come as the Cerb becomes an icon - much like the Griff has.
Not necessarily my view, but interesting all the same and it's made me think that a short induction setup and remap is not necessarily the best choice for my long term residual value.
Not necessarily my view, but interesting all the same and it's made me think that a short induction setup and remap is not necessarily the best choice for my long term residual value.
Take a look at any classic car and it is only the ones that are totally original that are sought after.
In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
It is a presonal thing - having watched 911s throughout the 80s and 90s I reckon that the following is ok and doesnt have a significant bearing on a cars saleability as a 'classic':-
Engine, brakes, exhaust and suspension mods that are well understood to enhance a cars dynamics but not is looks (eg nitrons, ecus and shorter pipes).
Some are ones that will probably impact it in the future and will lower value :-
Light mod copies of later cars and / or one off light mods.
Spoilers.
Fashion wheels.
Some are more difficult to conclude on eg
Spider wheels on earlier cerbs
All IMHO. But from judging the 911, MGB and other classics there appears to be a pattern!
Engine, brakes, exhaust and suspension mods that are well understood to enhance a cars dynamics but not is looks (eg nitrons, ecus and shorter pipes).
Some are ones that will probably impact it in the future and will lower value :-
Light mod copies of later cars and / or one off light mods.
Spoilers.
Fashion wheels.
Some are more difficult to conclude on eg
Spider wheels on earlier cerbs
All IMHO. But from judging the 911, MGB and other classics there appears to be a pattern!
verminator said:
my old e- type for one. also my harley is worth the same now as it cost 10 yrs ago. a mate of mine has just been offered £1000 more for his harley than he paid for it 17 yrs ago. and another rep jag i have has made just under £10,000 since i bought it 10yrs ago. but to be fair of course no modern car will hold its value appart from something extremly rare or desireable. i just cant see why cerb prices have dropped so much.
I was thinking more along the lines of ten year old sports cars around the Cerb price, as opposed to Rolls Royces the cost less than £500 in 1901 type comparisons
M3, M5, XKR, Viper, AMG Merc's, Lotus etc
FWIW I think the Cerbs small depriciation is a good point, not a bad one.
jensena said:
Take a look at any classic car and it is only the ones that are totally original that are sought after.
In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
I agree with this. 0ver modded cars would put me off. But then I can't understand the desires or requirements of the owners of hugely tweaked cerberas. Stock cerbs were 'tweaky' enough for me anyway!
I don't race mine, so this may explain why.
But then we are all different I guess.
thegreengoblet said:
I was told by a dealer that if you want to keep the price of your Cerb up, then keep it as original as possible. Obviously most of us have upgraded suspension and different alloys (especially in light of the fact that TVR 18" RLs where prone to cracking) and these are recognised as essential upgrades. However short induction kits and replacement ECUs are - apparently - a diferent story and could effect prices in years to come as the Cerb becomes an icon - much like the Griff has.
Not necessarily my view, but interesting all the same and it's made me think that a short induction setup and remap is not necessarily the best choice for my long term residual value.
Not necessarily my view, but interesting all the same and it's made me think that a short induction setup and remap is not necessarily the best choice for my long term residual value.
I agree with the 'keep it standard' sentiments but there are some mods that dramatically improve the Cerb experience. IMHO short induction kits are a sensible replacement for the 'purple' hoses when they get old and restrict the air flow. Alone the short hoses do little to change the engine characteristics. And if anyone hasn't driven a re-mapped 4.5 then go do it. You will be amazed at the smooth delivery particularly at low revs, which makes driving more pleasurable (and that's before you 'feel' the power hike, which post re-map, will be much closer to the ORIGINAL factory specification
) When I brought my Cerbera I was of the mind that this was a true British sports car, one of the most powerful ever made, and getting rarer by the week (especially with the recent weather). It is a true widow maker. I think in 10 years time a totally original 4.5 AJP with every possible extra (people always want the top spec) will be very rare and set you back 50k+.
I also think what the hell! I enjoy blasting along in my car so much that even if it was worth 50K I wouldn’t swap it for boring pile of paper with lots of £50 printed on them.
Tonight I blasted a tw%# in his brand new BMW 750 with his blond trophy wife/gfriend into the distance after he attempted to overtake me. A case of having you hand caught in the cookie jar Mr BMW.
Tim.
I also think what the hell! I enjoy blasting along in my car so much that even if it was worth 50K I wouldn’t swap it for boring pile of paper with lots of £50 printed on them.
Tonight I blasted a tw%# in his brand new BMW 750 with his blond trophy wife/gfriend into the distance after he attempted to overtake me. A case of having you hand caught in the cookie jar Mr BMW.
Tim.
jensena said:
Take a look at any classic car and it is only the ones that are totally original that are sought after.
In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
Thats spot on.But then again i dont intend on having mine in ten years time anyway. In 10 years time the owners with non-standard alloys, headlamp conversions, short induction etc etc will be trawaling round the car fares desperate to buy a set of RL 17's and standard eshaust boxes to return there car to standard condition.
I'm all for the standard look meself
Obviously from a selfish perspective, but i may be in the market for a Cerb in the fairly near future so please dont go boosting those prices for a couple of months.
From an unbiased perspective i would imagine prices will stabilise at the lower end with just the very recent dearer ones still facing significant depreciation.
Ones with poor or no history, goes without saying, will be worth significantly less due to buyer concers should anything expensive go pop.
From an unbiased perspective i would imagine prices will stabilise at the lower end with just the very recent dearer ones still facing significant depreciation.
Ones with poor or no history, goes without saying, will be worth significantly less due to buyer concers should anything expensive go pop.
I really can't see the prices dropping that much, you get the odd cheapy pop up (the £10k ers) but there's usually a reason for that.
Can you see the early 4.2's selling for £6K in 2 years time if this £2k a year thing is close when you still can't buy a decent early TVR for under £3.5K.
Perhaps I'm just hopeful......
Can you see the early 4.2's selling for £6K in 2 years time if this £2k a year thing is close when you still can't buy a decent early TVR for under £3.5K.
Perhaps I'm just hopeful......
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