Possible Flooding???
Possible Flooding???
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markh1

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2,846 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Just tried to start my cerb.....

It started first time and after a few seconds I tried to move it and it stalled. I tried to start it again but I think I flooded it and it wouldnt start again. I left it a few minutes but I flattended the battery trying again.

Do I need to just leave it for this afternoon and try jump start it this evening???

Is it ok to jump start a cerb using another cars battery??

Cheers,

mark

itsallyellow

3,879 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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I allways found that getting out locking it then trying again helped with this. Yes you can use another car jo jump it.
mike

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Leave it for a while,because know doubt the plugs will be wet.When you do go to jump it make sure you have a good strong battery,as if you havent it will flood again with a weak turnover.

markh1

Original Poster:

2,846 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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cheers guys I will try when I get home, I think I might just take the battery out and charge it up if its not too much of a pain.

Lets just hope this isnt the first of my woes! I have only had it for a week!!

southendpier

6,208 posts

258 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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try and charge it whilst the batery is in situ. MUCH easier!

itsallyellow

3,879 posts

249 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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markh1 said:
cheers guys I will try when I get home, I think I might just take the battery out and charge it up if its not too much of a pain.

Lets just hope this isnt the first of my woes! I have only had it for a week!!


Charge the battery in the car. It is a pain to take it out.
mike

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Take the brown fuse type thing out in the boot first. Jump start the car and this will clear the flood. Put the brown fuse box thing back in and then jump start the car until its running. Keep the car running until slighly warm then take out for a nice drive, which will /should charge your battery up nicely...

Done this a couple of times over the years.

MB

markh1

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2,846 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Marcus please could you be a bit more specific on where the brown fuse type thing is in the boot and is it identifiable from other brown fuses.

cheers

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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Stand on the drivers side after opening the boot. Look at the fuse board and their should be one small brown plastic box about an inch square. If you pull this out then no more fuel will be pumped from the tank into the engine.

When you turn the car over (from your jump start donor) it will gradually clear and begin to fire up and then die again; this means the flood has cleared.

Then put your inch square box back in place (it can only go in one way; but thinking about it better remember, or mark where you removed it from).

Now jump start as normal

Hope this is a bit better explained...

MB

markh1

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2,846 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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thats great thanks for that marcus

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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I've had this problem twice now recently during the cold spell.
Start the car and stalled it, (trying to keep the revs low at 5.30am) When I try to start it again it flooded.
I just left it for ten mins or so and it started fine.

marcus1970

1,217 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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If you take the brown box out and turn it over, it clears it in about 10 seconds...

Could save you ten minutes of embarrassment, especially if your ten minutes is on the shell garage forecourt with three beemers behind you...

MB

mars

10,114 posts

243 months

Thursday 15th March 2007
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It's "fairly" conventional when mapping to leave the max load site/min speed site at zero. This means when cranking (min speed site) with your foot pressed to the floor (max load site) you can crank it without any fuel being introduced. It's done this way specifically to allow you to clear the cylinders following a "wet failed start".

Can't say whether it's like this on the original ECU though. Emerald's are usually mapped this way.

whatever

2,174 posts

299 months

Friday 16th March 2007
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mars said:
It's "fairly" conventional when mapping to leave the max load site/min speed site at zero. This means when cranking (min speed site) with your foot pressed to the floor (max load site) you can crank it without any fuel being introduced. It's done this way specifically to allow you to clear the cylinders following a "wet failed start".

Can't say whether it's like this on the original ECU though. Emerald's are usually mapped this way.


I expect it would be fairly exciting when finding out that this "convention" wasn't followed when the stock mbe was programmed! hehe

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Saturday 17th March 2007
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marcus1970 said:
Stand on the drivers side after opening the boot. Look at the fuse board and their should be one small brown plastic box about an inch square. If you pull this out then no more fuel will be pumped from the tank into the engine.

When you turn the car over (from your jump start donor) it will gradually clear and begin to fire up and then die again; this means the flood has cleared.

Then put your inch square box back in place (it can only go in one way; but thinking about it better remember, or mark where you removed it from).

Now jump start as normal

Hope this is a bit better explained...

MB


I presume you mean one of the relays?

Cool, I will try this if it happens again.

buzz01

102 posts

256 months

Saturday 17th March 2007
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sounds like he means fuel pump relay