TVR dealer/factory letter to confirm Thatcham CAT1 Alarm
TVR dealer/factory letter to confirm Thatcham CAT1 Alarm
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hugepiece

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724 posts

256 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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When I had my Chimaera there was a letter in the "bible" that stated that the car was factory fitted with a thatcham cat1 alarm. I've now got a cerbera and my insurance renewal is due soon, but I dont have any proof of a CAT1 being fitted. I'm sure the same alarm is fitted to the Cerb (META), Does anyone have a similar letter for the Cerbera that I can send onto my insurance company? cheers

morebeanz

3,283 posts

265 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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I seem to recall a previous thread that identified TVR as using Thatcham equipment, but not having the appropriate approval from Thatcham as fitters? Can't find the thread now, but anyone else recall this?

jensena

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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It's not a Thatcham Cat 1 alrm, the handbook I have at home contains a letter stating that which alram is fitted, and I'm pretty sure it is Cat 2.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Yep think I started it. Problem was as described above.

Fitted but not approved. Thatcham therefore don't include it on their list of factory fits. Your insurance company therefore won't accept it.

Only thing you can do is try to blagg it with your insurance company or get a Dealer to sign a letter to say its aftermarket approved.

I had to do the latter. The letter however must contain the registration details on the car and be done for each individual car.

Same problem now with three different insurance companies.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Agreed, there should be a thread somewhere which goes into further detail; my memory seems to recall that CAT 1 was not possible because whilst the alarm used was Cat 1 standard, bonnet sensor's were not fitted and hence the install cert was not poss.

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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I'm sure I have a letter somewhere, which has always satisfied my insurance company. I'll go and have a look and post when I find it. You can have a copy of that if it helps?

Okay, found it. Unfortunately the atual letter refers to a Chimaera, but it's probably the same alarm system on the Cerbera too isn't it? Anyway, heres what it says:

'Fitted with M99T2 alarm system. This alarm comprises of 2 units linked together; the M99T2 alarm control unit with batter backed siren and the M36T2 immobiliser along with the M23A microwave sensor. The M99T2 alarm system together with the M36T2 immobiliser is a Thatham category 1 approved article if fitted by a Thatcham approved installer.'

From TVR Engineering.

Any good? Or did I misunderstand the question?......


Edited by amazon on Monday 26th March 14:31

hugepiece

Original Poster:

724 posts

256 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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if I can have a copy of the letter that would be great. I'll then get someone to knock something similatr up. After all, i'd rather not have to get another alarm fitted just for this! Cheers, steve

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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I've got a letter from the factory for my Cerb, not dated, but i'm guessing it's 1997, that states....

"Every TVR from 2ND Jan96 is fitted with a Meta99T, comprising of two items linked together, the 99T control unit with battery back up & M36T immobiliser along with the GEC Plessey MK4 microwave.


The M99T is cat 1 if used with the immobiliser, ultrasonics, boot & bonnet switches, due to the nature of the vehicle, this cannot be classified as cat 1.

The microwave trigger input also uses the input for boot & bonnet switches, which are not fitted.

The M36T on it's own has cat 2 rating, as a standalone immobilities approval number TEI 119/0895."

Bearing in mind, you could use the boot switch that operates the light, how hard could it be to fit a bonnet switch to get cat 1 approval ?

If you need it faxing or posting email me.

Alternatively, if you've got a couple of days to spare, I may be able to scan & email it. Once my ten year old, shows me how to use the scanner

hugepiece

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724 posts

256 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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cheers russel, i've mailed you my FAX no. Also for anyone else that is interested once I have this I can email over to anyone that needs a copy.

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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I've just faxed it Steve.

Let me know if it doesn't come out o.k., and I'll use my vast knowledge of barbuters & attempt to email it.

byker28i

91,688 posts

246 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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amazon said:

'Fitted with M99T2 alarm system. This alarm comprises of 2 units linked together; the M99T2 alarm control unit with batter backed siren and the M36T2 immobiliser along with the M23A microwave sensor. The M99T2 alarm system together with the M36T2 immobiliser is a Thatham category 1 approved article if fitted by a Thatcham approved installer.'


This is basically what I told my insurance company and they were fine with that. I just told them it was factory fitted.

Tangoed

924 posts

244 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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Also depends on the insurance company with the standard letter. Direct line wanted to see the reg number quoted on the letter. They agreed with me that these alarms were fitted as standard at the factory, but still wanted to see the reg quoted.

hugepiece

Original Poster:

724 posts

256 months

Monday 26th March 2007
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thanks russell - i've got it. Much appreciated!

morebeanz

3,283 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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byker28i said:
amazon said:

'Fitted with M99T2 alarm system. This alarm comprises of 2 units linked together; the M99T2 alarm control unit with batter backed siren and the M36T2 immobiliser along with the M23A microwave sensor. The M99T2 alarm system together with the M36T2 immobiliser is a Thatham category 1 approved article if fitted by a Thatcham approved installer.'


This is basically what I told my insurance company and they were fine with that. I just told them it was factory fitted.


Just to be clear, the only issue with Thatcham is that the Factory were not approved fitters, hence the confusion. Typical TVR frankly!

I am sure it couldn't be that expensive to get an approved fitter to fit certain enhancements to the overall set-up, and consequently get certification for the whole alarm system...