Rear anti-roll bar drop links?
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Anyone know what the rear anti-roll bar drop links are originally out of?
They look like they have been modified for Cerb use and the bushings are stamped GM but there's no obvious markings on the drop links themselves.
And, of course, I've broken one and bent the other from grounging the car on our rubbish Irish roads.
They look like they have been modified for Cerb use and the bushings are stamped GM but there's no obvious markings on the drop links themselves.
And, of course, I've broken one and bent the other from grounging the car on our rubbish Irish roads.
www.pistonheads.com/astonmartin/default.asp?storyId=11701
I'm sure he does the ones for the Cerb's now. I was at Leven's a few weeks ago and they had some for a Cerb.
I'm sure he does the ones for the Cerb's now. I was at Leven's a few weeks ago and they had some for a Cerb.
How about Steve Heath drop links
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Edited by byker28i on Tuesday 27th March 07:49
got drop links on mine, they came fitted on the car so I don't know what the difference in handling or ride is I'm afraid. All I know is they aren't too big and they are the only shiney thing on the underside of my car. Give Leven a call they fitted them, and Simon would explain in detail I'm sure. 01268 281611.
I think I may have found something similar from a local truck spares company this morning.
They had a section of a gear linkage that is very similar in size and strength.
The only modification I may need to make is to drill out the mounting hole from 8mm to 10mm at the top plate.
I'll have a better look at the set-up on the car tonight to confirm if they suit.
And at €24.00 (about £16.00) + VAT each side they will be a lot cheaper than the alternatives so hopefully they will do the job.
I'll keep you all posted and, if they work, I'll get the part numbers on the equivalent parts thread.
He's also checking into sourcing the front brake discs for me ..... and no, they're not off a truck.
They had a section of a gear linkage that is very similar in size and strength.
The only modification I may need to make is to drill out the mounting hole from 8mm to 10mm at the top plate.
I'll have a better look at the set-up on the car tonight to confirm if they suit.
And at €24.00 (about £16.00) + VAT each side they will be a lot cheaper than the alternatives so hopefully they will do the job.
I'll keep you all posted and, if they work, I'll get the part numbers on the equivalent parts thread.
He's also checking into sourcing the front brake discs for me ..... and no, they're not off a truck.
jensena said:
www.pistonheads.com/astonmartin/default.asp?storyId=11701
I'm sure he does the ones for the Cerb's now. I was at Leven's a few weeks ago and they had some for a Cerb.
I'm sure he does the ones for the Cerb's now. I was at Leven's a few weeks ago and they had some for a Cerb.
Yes I do. www.tvrextras.co.uk
I also improved the design to remove one of the main reasons for them breaking. The bolt through a bush mount doesn't offer enough movement so that the original droplink starts to bend the mounting plate and eventually will either break it or snap the joint. The early Cerbera used the same design as the Griff/Chimaera and this was a known problem but I have also seen similar breakages on the later design with the ARB above the chassis. I have a second rose joint at the top which allows the correct movement. I also do not have any bushes as these simply negate the action of the ARB. The ARB spends more time moving the rubber than acting on the suspension.
We offer drop links for Griffith/Chimaera(early Cerbera), Cerbera and Tuscan. They all follow the same basic design of a stainless steel shaft. Rubber bushes at the top and a rose joint at the bottom. This is in essence the Later Cerbera/Tuscan design with changes to the rod design to improve reliability. We have designed and manufactured special spacers for the rose jointed end to ensure maximum movement and ensure the link is as verticial as possible. This combination gives a great improvement on the verticial aligment on the Griffith/Chimaera. We opted to use rubber bushes for the top mount to remove some harshness. Fully ridged joints are ideal for race cars where ride quaility is not an issue, milage is low and frequent inspection and replacement takes place. We fit these droplinks in our own workshop with no problems and plenty of satisfied customer. For more details please contact us.
It seems we have two different design philosophies...
Ride harshness is not something I experienced with the prototypes and has not been reported back to me as an issue by any of my customers. In fact quite the reverse: I've had many comments about the car being less twitchy on bumpy roads and more progressive. This confirmed my own experiences during testing. What did surprise me was that the overall improvement in handling was such that several owners reported back that they could then soften the suspension without compromising the roll control and actually have a softer ride.
Harshness is often experienced with cars that have fully rose jointed suspension - and in track and competition environments that can put a tremendous strain on the components - but it doesn't follow that ARB droplinks suffer the same problems or issues. Certainly my experience and that of others have shown this to be the case.
Interestingly enough, I still have the original rose jointed drop links on my Wedge - and these were fitted over 5 years ago. Since then, the car has done around 25k miles - it is driven (not trailered) to sprints and has taken part in some 100 odd sprints and test/track days. In comparison, I was replacing the original bushes about every 6-9 months.
The Griffith prototypes have been on my Griffith 500 for two years - and this car has also taken part in sprints & track days, as well as regular 'normal' driving. Having seen plenty of damaged and broken original drop links, I am in favour of frequent inspection - irrespective of the type fitted - and this should be done at each service, at a minimum.
There are customer reviews and more info on my website.
At least with two different design philosophies, owners can make a choice.
Ride harshness is not something I experienced with the prototypes and has not been reported back to me as an issue by any of my customers. In fact quite the reverse: I've had many comments about the car being less twitchy on bumpy roads and more progressive. This confirmed my own experiences during testing. What did surprise me was that the overall improvement in handling was such that several owners reported back that they could then soften the suspension without compromising the roll control and actually have a softer ride.
Harshness is often experienced with cars that have fully rose jointed suspension - and in track and competition environments that can put a tremendous strain on the components - but it doesn't follow that ARB droplinks suffer the same problems or issues. Certainly my experience and that of others have shown this to be the case.
Interestingly enough, I still have the original rose jointed drop links on my Wedge - and these were fitted over 5 years ago. Since then, the car has done around 25k miles - it is driven (not trailered) to sprints and has taken part in some 100 odd sprints and test/track days. In comparison, I was replacing the original bushes about every 6-9 months.
The Griffith prototypes have been on my Griffith 500 for two years - and this car has also taken part in sprints & track days, as well as regular 'normal' driving. Having seen plenty of damaged and broken original drop links, I am in favour of frequent inspection - irrespective of the type fitted - and this should be done at each service, at a minimum.
There are customer reviews and more info on my website.
At least with two different design philosophies, owners can make a choice.
Edited by shpub on Thursday 29th March 13:47
Here's what the old ones looked like after they came out (one has snapped off completely)
and here's what replaced them
They are actually a linkage off a truck gear selector, but they fitted perfectly and will do the job until I get a decent set of new ones.
At least the car is back on the road and the back of it doesn't feel like jelly any longer.
I'll know after the weekend if they have been a success or not.
and here's what replaced them
They are actually a linkage off a truck gear selector, but they fitted perfectly and will do the job until I get a decent set of new ones.
At least the car is back on the road and the back of it doesn't feel like jelly any longer.
I'll know after the weekend if they have been a success or not.
Edited by Ireland on Friday 30th March 23:12
Update time .....
I've driven the car over the weekend and covered about 100 miles, a lot of which were on "bad" roads and the back of the car feels a lot steadier.
In fact, the back of the car feels better than it has at any stage since I got it.
This repair should keep me going 'til I get a ste of the "good ones" as per the two posts above (but which ones?).
I'll have to do a bit of further work on the car now to get the front end fully sorted but the rear ARB drop-links are something I'd recommend any of you with twitch back-ends
to have a look at.
I've driven the car over the weekend and covered about 100 miles, a lot of which were on "bad" roads and the back of the car feels a lot steadier.
In fact, the back of the car feels better than it has at any stage since I got it.
This repair should keep me going 'til I get a ste of the "good ones" as per the two posts above (but which ones?).
I'll have to do a bit of further work on the car now to get the front end fully sorted but the rear ARB drop-links are something I'd recommend any of you with twitch back-ends
to have a look at.hoy 10 year thread revival batman
How about
https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/by-model/cerbera-v...
Power have some of the rose joints if thats all you need
http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/store/slug/rear...
Racetech also sell them as also do Prestige (Leven)
http://www.ppctvr.co.uk/category/product-category/...
I have the Steve Heath ones: http://www.shengltd.com/tvrextras/docs/CRARB-v1.pd...
How about
https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/by-model/cerbera-v...
Power have some of the rose joints if thats all you need
http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/store/slug/rear...
Racetech also sell them as also do Prestige (Leven)
http://www.ppctvr.co.uk/category/product-category/...
I have the Steve Heath ones: http://www.shengltd.com/tvrextras/docs/CRARB-v1.pd...
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