Clutch Fluid, DOT4 or 5.1??
Clutch Fluid, DOT4 or 5.1??
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ice_mantis

Original Poster:

138 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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Anyone used Halfords Clutch Fluid before? and if so do you use the DOT4 or 5.1?

I looked in the manual and it says to use Mobil Universal Clutch Fluid SAEJ1703. Halfords only have one universal which is DOT4 (and exceeds SAEJ1703) but ive noticed a couple of posts on here where some of you are using DOT5.1. Should I take my DOT4 back? I thought DOT5.1 was for cars with ABS?

Thanks in advance!

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

254 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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I'm using Wurth DOT 4 in mine for brake and clutch fluid and all OK.

However, if I were to take the Cerbera on the track then I'd be replacing it with 5.1 due to the higher boiling point.

With DOT 4 I've never had a problem even in the hottest days of summer, but then I do change these fluids every year for fun!

marcus1970

1,217 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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5.1 every time

MB

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

277 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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5.1 as i think there was issues that a rating lower than this caused premeture failing of the slave seals.And its boiling point is higher.Some one will probably correct me.

Extra 300 Driver

5,281 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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ice_mantis said:
Anyone used Halfords Clutch Fluid before? and if so do you use the DOT4 or 5.1?

I looked in the manual and it says to use Mobil Universal Clutch Fluid SAEJ1703. Halfords only have one universal which is DOT4 (and exceeds SAEJ1703) but ive noticed a couple of posts on here where some of you are using DOT5.1. Should I take my DOT4 back? I thought DOT5.1 was for cars with ABS?

Thanks in advance!


If you have not changed the fluid, its DOT6 in the Clutch and Brakes, costs a bloody fortune!

ice_mantis

Original Poster:

138 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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No, I havn't changed it, was going to bleed it tonight and put the DOT4 in but now perhaps i'll hold off! DOT 6??? Not heard that one mentioned yet!

kojak

4,546 posts

270 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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5.1

Billy_rfc

587 posts

272 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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You should be thinking of one of these products.

[url]www.demon-tweeks.com/products/ProductList.asp?cls=MSPORT&grp=MP101&pgrp=M008&tlgrp=MS002[/url]

marcus1970

1,217 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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Billy_rfc said:
You should be thinking of one of these products.

[url]www.demon-tweeks.com/products/ProductList.asp?cls=MSPORT&grp=MP101&pgrp=M008&tlgrp=MS002[/url]



Blimey 47 quid a litre!!!!!!

Must have mermaids juice in it, or unicorns pi*s or...

MB

jensena

5,671 posts

247 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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Mobil Universal Clutch Fluid SAEJ1703 as recomended by TVR is a DOT 4 fluid. So a Halfords fluid that meets DOT 4 is fine.

Extra 300 Driver

5,281 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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ice_mantis said:
No, I havn't changed it, was going to bleed it tonight and put the DOT4 in but now perhaps i'll hold off! DOT 6??? Not heard that one mentioned yet!


Just make sure you bleed it through, it will be fine.

byker28i

77,289 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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I completely flushed mine through with 5.1 after London Thunder as the clutch got hot and I had the pedal go straight to the floor. After flushing through it's not repeated.

gazzab

21,439 posts

299 months

Tuesday 27th March 2007
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I me a chap who races classic cars including an old TVR (oh and a 911 GT2).
he swears by something called BMW Blue (I am sure that is what he said).

Tokyokev

138 posts

254 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Castrol SRF 5.1 in mine...it's handled the hottest days and the feel is really solid. Expensive but I love it.

Seems to be the way to go with all the turbo ricers too. It's used in F1 cars so it must be good. right?

K

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

254 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Tokyokev said:
Castrol SRF 5.1 in mine...it's handled the hottest days and the feel is really solid. Expensive but I love it.

Seems to be the way to go with all the turbo ricers too. It's used in F1 cars so it must be good. right?

K



I would think that is silicone based then.

jon h

863 posts

301 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Whilst on the subject... if changing from dot 4 to 5.1, what do you need to do in the way of flushing?

Do you pump as much of the old stuff out first, thus emptying the reservoir, and then just top up with new and flush through. I would hope the new stuff would be a different colour, so you know when it has run through the system.

A fellow Cerb owner suggested Automec silicone fluid, which is made for the US Military, apparently, when I had problems. I have not got round to changing over yet, but he swears by it.

On a slight tangent, has anyone ever fitted a different slave cylinder with a remote reservoir, so you can actually keep an eye on it? I came across such a thing in a catalogue which fell out of last month's Practical Performance Car, and thought it seemed a good idea.

Jon

codfather

45 posts

274 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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i definitely recommend 5.1, after boiling dot 4 mid session at oulton park i changed fluid and pants and will never go back

jbvipercerb

246 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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As far as I know you should use the best fluid you can, so 5.1, it may be 4 in the book as this was the best when it was written.
Talking of silicone fluid, I thought all the seals in any system must be changed if going from mineral brake fluid to silicone fluid as the two don't mix and seals will leak after wards. Maybe someone else knows better.

Buster44

487 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th March 2007
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Castrol SRF is good stuff, but very hydroscopic and hence needs changing at least annually.

esso

1,849 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th March 2007
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Depends if your gonna take your Cerb on a track i suppose,i asked TVR POWER this question when i did my clutch & the answer was that for road use DOT 4 was fine.