CONE FILTERS
CONE FILTERS
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marcus1970

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1,217 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Hello all

I've heard that at least one CERB has cone filters placed/cut into the normal black air pipes as a replacement for the standard filter at the front. Effectively, the area where the normal filter sits is empty and the box acts as just an air box to allow in the colder air. The cones then suck air in at a greater rate and pass it on to the standard air boxex and into the hoses/trumpets. Has anyone got this set up on their CERB or does anyone have any info on power increase decrease etc.

Cheers

MB

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Gazzab has this I think or used to, he was talking about going back to standard cos it was effin noisy and he was getting to be an old man. Sure I have seen at least one other also but can't remember who it was.


Edited by touching cloth on Thursday 19th April 21:03

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Cones cost power.

Jules.

gazzab

21,643 posts

312 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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I got them on my car - I have the BMC F1 cones. The induction roar is amazing.

gazzab

21,643 posts

312 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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And I am too old for all the noise !! In fact I would fit a standard filter if I could work out how to!

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Cyclone1 said:
Cones cost power.

Jules.



They certainly did on the dyno didn't they ? .. i'm not sure if that would be entirely replicated on the road as the cold air from the car moving is more than my fan can ever replicate .. and the cones will never cost as much hp as a dirty std filter so they have their place .. I had a cerbera in recently which had a very dirty std air filter in place and removing it gained 12hp!!

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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gazzab said:
And I am too old for all the noise !! In fact I would fit a standard filter if I could work out how to!


It's not that hard Gazza, just unclip the top of the front airbox and pull it out of the way (you can only go so far as there is a sensor attached to the passengers side of the box), then just lay the filter in position where exposed(might have to pull and stretch it a bit as it's been cleaned so may have shrunk a little), then just push the top section of the airbox back in place on top of the filter and secure via the clips.

Jules.

ps Can't believe your Cerb hasn't sold yet.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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trackcar said:
Cyclone1 said:
Cones cost power.

Jules.



They certainly did on the dyno didn't they ? .. i'm not sure if that would be entirely replicated on the road as the cold air from the car moving is more than my fan can ever replicate .. and the cones will never cost as much hp as a dirty std filter so they have their place .. I had a cerbera in recently which had a very dirty std air filter in place and removing it gained 12hp!!


True Joolz,

But for optimum performance I'd opt for the std set up over cones, especially once you've fitted a low clog, hi-flow performance filter.

Jules.

Neilus

908 posts

312 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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I think Craig (Nitro Cerb) has cone filters on his, however he has placed them in a housing.


(Top right corner of the picture).

Neil.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Neilus said:
I think Craig (Nitro Cerb) has cone filters on his, however he has placed them in a housing.


(Top right corner of the picture).

Neil.


Cerb porn that engine bay........cloud9

Jules.

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Indeed, it's gorgeous

brummiewedge

5,284 posts

251 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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So is there a higher flow panel filter, or is a clean std one as good as it gets?

Cooky

4,955 posts

267 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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I've been thinking about fitting cone filters to my 4.2 for a while now, apart from the obvious noise benefit has anyone fitted them to a 4.2?
Also how much extra turbulence if any is created inside the engine bay when removing the filter housing? does the extra flow cause the bonnet to jump about any more than normal?
cheers
Cooky

hbeck

424 posts

253 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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brummiewedge said:
So is there a higher flow panel filter, or is a clean std one as good as it gets?


I bought the K&N filter form ACT, that fits in the standard airbox......has to be better than the standard one!

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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the std filter is good for 400hp .. if you keep it clean! .. trouble is it clogs quickly and hp then drops off .. but if you dont mind taking it out every 2 months or so it'll supply enough air for all but the very highest hp cars. On a 4.2 there's little point going to another type of filter (other than if you keep the car long enough you'll get the value benefit of course) as the 4.2 makes 360/370 at best so not really troubling the std filter as much as the hairier 4.5s at 420hp plus. make sure it's clean though!

marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Which is the best panel filter ? Is the K&N ACT one top dog or are there equivalents around and...

So, say cones are ok, but which ones to go for?

MB

marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Personal preferences - vendor of good quality recommendable gear?

MB

marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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???anyone???

tumbleweed tumbleweed

MB

ridds

8,372 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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I'd never bother with a K&N. ITG or Pipercross foam for me. ITG being the preference.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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marcus1970 said:
???anyone???

tumbleweed tumbleweed

MB


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