Cold Idle
Cold Idle
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marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Hello all,

In the manual and generally speaking, it states that the warm idle should be around 950rpm.

When starting the car from cold, say in the morning, what should it be idling at?

What is everybodies CERB idling at when they start it up first thing in the morning.

All idles appreciated.

Cheers

MB

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Funny this, my cold idle is about bang on 950, but warm idle is about 1200 confused

Ireland

3,517 posts

244 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Mine's usually about 900 cold or hot.

Sometimes it splutters and dies when cold so I now try to hold it at about 1100 for a minute or two 'til it's ok on it's own.

methodwares

583 posts

274 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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mines 6-700 cold... 900 - 950 warm

byker28i

91,755 posts

247 months

Friday 11th May 2007
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Just had mine done at the service. I mentioned it idled to high at 1400, now it idles at 900-950 both cold and warm. Runs great too.

amazon

3,704 posts

241 months

Saturday 12th May 2007
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FUBAR said:
Funny this, my cold idle is about bang on 950, but warm idle is about 1200 confused


Warm idle is now set at 1200, given that after the recent service, the car does not seem happy idling at 1000 mark.

gazzab

21,646 posts

312 months

Saturday 12th May 2007
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950 at all times.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Saturday 12th May 2007
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Im getting worried about the Germanic consistency of Cerbs

marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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FUBAR said:
Funny this, my cold idle is about bang on 950, but warm idle is about 1200 confused


Mine is roughly the same. Why does the idle increase as the temerature warms up. Does it mean that a control/regulator is knackered somewhere?

MB

methodwares

583 posts

274 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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the ecu cannot 'physically' adjust the idle speed in the way a corvette or any drive by wire or cold idle selenoid setup can. it only adjusts the idle by fiddling with the ignition timing (and fueling based on lamda readings, i would guess). at cold, the ignition timing is about 36 degrees advanced, at least it is on mine. once warm its at 17 degrees or so, so i have no problems with it idling low when cold as i know its not running 'as it should be', not like when its warm.

my honda jazz idles at 1400 when cold and 750 when warm. i haven't looked at the engine to see if it physically adjusts the throttle nor asked around to see if it somehow messes with the timing to make it do this. 600+ rpm would seem a bit much just to be adjusted with just fueling and timing though.

marcus1970

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

265 months

Monday 14th May 2007
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methodwares said:
mines 6-700 cold... 900 - 950 warm


Does it not feel like the engine is going to cut out?

When mine idles at this speed, I'm always worried that it feels like the engine is being damaged - probably because its so flamin' noisy.

MB

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Monday 14th May 2007
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methodwares said:
the ecu cannot 'physically' adjust the idle speed in the way a corvette or any drive by wire or cold idle selenoid setup can. it only adjusts the idle by fiddling with the ignition timing (and fueling based on lamda readings, i would guess). at cold, the ignition timing is about 36 degrees advanced, at least it is on mine. once warm its at 17 degrees or so, so i have no problems with it idling low when cold as i know its not running 'as it should be', not like when its warm.

my honda jazz idles at 1400 when cold and 750 when warm. i haven't looked at the engine to see if it physically adjusts the throttle nor asked around to see if it somehow messes with the timing to make it do this. 600+ rpm would seem a bit much just to be adjusted with just fueling and timing though.


I can understand the higher idle when cold and dropping when warm (like a good old choke?) but not the other way round. My Audi idles at about 1300rpm for the first 30 secs of a cold start then drops to about 900. Im not worried as iirc Austec set the higher idle when they mapped the car last and it runs fine (when its working that is). They did tell me why they did it but it goes in one ear and straight out the other