Induction
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itsallyellow

Original Poster:

3,879 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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So what do we think is the best way to get air into an AJP.

Dont care about noise, looks infact anything except for performance gains.

Options (let me know if i miss any)

Standard System
Cone filters
Covered cone filters
Tuscan challenge bonnet intakes
No air boxes just trumpets with a filter element??


Anyone got any ideas???

Mike

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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Standard System
defo not a race orientated hp curve, unless you're hillclimbing maybe


Cone filters
sound great and flow loads but can be improved upon ie proper cold air feed

Covered cone filters
getting better but there's an inlet length trap you should avoid

Tuscan challenge bonnet intakes
never understood this set-up. not conclusively proven on dyno but i suspect relatively easy to improve upon

No air boxes just trumpets with a filter element??
unless your trumpet is about 5 inches long this is a really bad idea, the airboxes are worth 20hp (cold air and large plenum volume) so don't junk those.

Edited by trackcar on Wednesday 13th June 14:49

itsallyellow

Original Poster:

3,879 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
quotequote all
trackcar said:
Standard System
defo not a race orientated hp curve, unless you're hillclimbing maybe


Cone filters
sound great and flow loads but can be improved upon ie proper cold air feed

Covered cone filters
getting better but there's an inlet length trap you should avoid

Tuscan challenge bonnet intakes
never understood this set-up. not conclusively proven on dyno but i suspect relatively easy to improve upon

No air boxes just trumpets with a filter element??
unless your trumpet is about 5 inches long this is a really bad idea, the airboxes are worth 20hp (cold air and large plenum volume) so don't junk those.

Edited by trackcar on Wednesday 13th June 14:49
Thanks mate. YHM

Mike

oli_quick

380 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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a little pair of belows and a system of string and coggs....

InverCerb

2,370 posts

295 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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trackcar said:
Standard System
defo not a race orientated hp curve, unless you're hillclimbing maybe


Cone filters
sound great and flow loads but can be improved upon ie proper cold air feed

Covered cone filters
getting better but there's an inlet length trap you should avoid

Tuscan challenge bonnet intakes
never understood this set-up. not conclusively proven on dyno but i suspect relatively easy to improve upon

No air boxes just trumpets with a filter element??
unless your trumpet is about 5 inches long this is a really bad idea, the airboxes are worth 20hp (cold air and large plenum volume) so don't junk those.

Edited by trackcar on Wednesday 13th June 14:49
So which was is best, it sounds like none do the job very well!

Edited by InverCerb on Wednesday 13th June 16:45

jayzee

2,752 posts

234 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.

jayzee

2,752 posts

234 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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jayzee said:
Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile
hehe beware of expensive imitations hehe

HarryW

16,029 posts

299 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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trackcar said:
jayzee said:
Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile
hehe beware of expensive imitations hehe
How I miss the banter hehe

jayzee

2,752 posts

234 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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HarryW said:
trackcar said:
jayzee said:
Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile
hehe beware of expensive imitations hehe
How I miss the banter hehe
We can do some more if you like biggrin

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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HarryW said:
trackcar said:
jayzee said:
Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile
hehe beware of expensive imitations hehe
How I miss the banter hehe
those were the days smile how's your cam testing coming Harry?

HarryW

16,029 posts

299 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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trackcar said:
HarryW said:
trackcar said:
jayzee said:
Cyclone1 said:
jayzee said:
What's with this track car solution, I understand it gives 40 or so BHP?

I take it this is expensive and includes the short induction pipes too?
It's the cheapest option you'll find on short induction and a remap. Check Trackcars profile for a link or do a serach on "short induction" or "Whirlwind induction", failing that drop me an email and I will explain it all for you.

Jules.
Being the cheapest means it isn't as good as some others? I'll email you smile
hehe beware of expensive imitations hehe
How I miss the banter hehe
those were the days smile how's your cam testing coming Harry?
Cams done, not sure of the results for all the profiles but think (I'll confirm) I have a No5 fitted now.

The final version of the modified 4.2's are going in next week, with the usual internal 'improvements' lots and lots of work on mine but they have now made jig and have special drilling/milling tools to repeat it. TBH they are an absolute work of art, its almost sad that they still look standard(ish) on the outside hehe.

If that goes well then next saturday the kit of a thousand parts, every shape and size of exhaust section you could possibly fit to a cerb has been premade for a test day, which I'm really looking forward to.

Hoping the whole car is a couple of weeks away now, boy its been a long journey, only hope I don't wrap it around something on the first outing hehe.

Edited by HarryW on Tuesday 19th June 19:26