Ferrari 430 or SL65 AMG or TVR Cerbera 4.5

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If funds permitted, which one would you prefer and why?


F430 (4.3 V8 - 490hp)


SL65 AMG (5.9 V12 BiTurbo - 604hp)


Cerbera 4.5 (4.5 V8 - 370hp)

[BCA]

If I could have just one, F430... though theoretically I could get an F430 and a Cerb 4.5 for the price of the SL.

The reason is simple; its the quickest of the bunch point to point, sounds pretty good, can be used in all weathers without too much bother, looks the most exotic and its a mid engined car with Le Mans pedigree, which I quite like.

The SL is the quickest in a straight line of all of them, but not good enough in the corners for the kind of use it would see in my hands and would blend in to normal traffic too easily.

The Cerb is a close second, but we already have one. - Though if we didnt it would still be the F430, just... I'd miss the Cerb/ be a little gutted whenever I saw one though. Theres nothing else quite like it.

[Chuggaboom]

And you want a totally unbiased opinion from on the Cerb forum

(Actually I'd go for the F430 too, but without the spoiler, if I was loaded....but then I have a Cerb powered racer for the track that would eat it for breakfast )

[brummiewedge]

I'll take the thong dropping special, and we know which one that is!

[rpicker]

I'd have to be committed and take the fez and the merc cos I've already got the only one I can afford

[shadowninja]

BCA said:

would blend in to normal traffic too easily.

Hardly. It's the most lustful car that Mercedes have produced in a long while. I can't think of another Mercedes that genuinely makes me drool. I think you have to go back to the old Gullwings...

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shadowninja said:

BCA said:

would blend in to normal traffic too easily.

Hardly. It's the most lustful car that Mercedes have produced in a long while. I can't think of another Mercedes that genuinely makes me drool. I think you have to go back to the old Gullwings...

I followed one recently, honestly, barely anyone knew what it was - my passenger at the time didnt either, she wasnt amused when I got all excited and started pointing at the various differences (front bumper, side vents with bi-turbo badging etc etc) Think the numberplate was something like 5YN amazing car... but most wouldnt see it being much different from any other SL.

[shadowninja]

That's what I mean, though. All the new SLs look great. The meatier ones have bodykits and better-looking wheels, though, so they look better overall. And even better: they look good with the roof up.

[southendpier]

Why, have you got your name down for one Ash?

430 for me out of that list (assuming I had the Cerb already) but for the money there are a plethora of cars that would take my interest.

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shadowninja said:

That's what I mean, though. All the new SLs look great. The meatier ones have bodykits and better-looking wheels, though, so they look better overall. And even better: they look good with the roof up.

I sort-of agree, though they look a bit "old-man" - but im a yoof so what do I know?

I'd have an SL55 instead though, not as earth shatteringly quick, but much much cheaper and a better soundtrack. I liked the earlier style (optional?) wheels too, the ones that look like the concept SLR's phone dial style, but sort of swished?! - not a great description eh?

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If only this was the shape they stuck to! :drool:

[Seasider]

SXS said:

If only this was the shape they stuck to! :drool:

Pass the tissues.....

[AlVal]

id have the fez, because , as the image shows, the tvr is already broken down :P

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Seasider said:

SXS said:

If only this was the shape they stuck to! :drool:

Pass the tissues.....

I feel you bruv! :'(

[shadowninja]

BCA said:

shadowninja said:

That's what I mean, though. All the new SLs look great. The meatier ones have bodykits and better-looking wheels, though, so they look better overall. And even better: they look good with the roof up.

I sort-of agree, though they look a bit "old-man" - but im a yoof so what do I know?

I'd have an SL55 instead though, not as earth shatteringly quick, but much much cheaper and a better soundtrack.

they don't look "old man" at all. They look like a toned down SLR ie very supercar-ish. Maybe there are just too many OAPs drive SL350s where you live? You might be right on the V8 vs V12, though. V12s do sound a bit too smooth.

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shadowninja said:

V12s do sound a bit too smooth.

especially with turbos at the front of the collectors, so you dont get the cylinder pulse sounds coming through the rear, just a roar.

[shadowninja]

true. out of interest, how come the Maserati 3200 with a suitable exhaust system still has the V8 noise?

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shadowninja said:

true. out of interest, how come the Maserati 3200 with a suitable exhaust system still has the V8 noise?

Look at the size of the compressor housing, these are ridiculously tiny turbos, the header section to turbo exhuaust turbine is extremely short, and depending on the firing order of this engine you're probably still gonna hear a burble rather than an all out roar, its all down to how the wastegate/turbine housing is designed, the smaller the turbo, the least lag obviously, but also certain design considerations are taken into account for a free'er flowing system. I have personally driven a 3200 and I wouldnt say its a proper V8 burble, but its there on idle and low rpms, this probably means the wastegates are pretty free-flowing and offer less of a restriction on the flowing gases resulting in the pulses bouncing down the exhaust system, also as these turbos are quite small, i guess the wastegate opens up sooner as they're probably spinning up pretty quick, which again will release some of your burble...

[FUBAR]

SXS said:

Seasider said:

SXS said:

If only this was the shape they stuck to! :drool:

Pass the tissues.....

I feel you bruv! :'(

s!

I was going to say, instead of the SL, this cheeky little monkey currently floats my boat in the Mercedes stable



But, I have to say, this one
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has given me the horn, make no mistake!

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dont forget, mercedes spend a lot of time making their cars quiet and smooth! completely different school of thought, as their main market segment is the rich and old as far as their supers are concerned....