Which brake pads
Discussion
I've just got my car back from a motorsport suspension expert and he was adamant that "Green Stuff" would be best suited to the car for the type of use that most Cerbs normally get.
They'll be soft enough to prevent any "skimming" of the pad along the disc but should have no problem stopping the car.
I'll be fitting them to mine as soon as I can locate some.
They'll be soft enough to prevent any "skimming" of the pad along the disc but should have no problem stopping the car.
I'll be fitting them to mine as soon as I can locate some.
Daftlad said:
Mintex F4R. Not too hard on the discs and good initial bite when cold. My Iced Titanium Sagaris was runing them on the front at Oulton on Wednesday, did 15 or 16 sessions, hard late braking and no problems.
Stay clear of EBC greenstuff - They are pretty poor.
I have greenstuff on mine, must admit they are not good when cold. Stay clear of EBC greenstuff - They are pretty poor.
Toadusmodus said:
Daftlad said:
Mintex F4R. Not too hard on the discs and good initial bite when cold. My Iced Titanium Sagaris was runing them on the front at Oulton on Wednesday, did 15 or 16 sessions, hard late braking and no problems.
Stay clear of EBC greenstuff - They are pretty poor.
I have greenstuff on mine, must admit they are not good when cold. Stay clear of EBC greenstuff - They are pretty poor.
Jon H
Thanks for the advice guys, Well i think its a definate no to green stuff i think i,ll give the mintex a try, maybe next track day i will be able to keep up with someone and not have to pit for new underware!! after wednesday one thing is for sure i am NOT a driving god but on the bright side i suppose i can only get better.
I had EBC Greenstuff in mine when I bought it, First thing I did was bin them, what a pile of over-marketed shyte, they break off in chunks, judder like hell, squeel, and the dust is ridiculous...apart from all these reasons they couldn't stop for shit.
I recommend Mintex 1144's as a replacement for the Ferodo originals (although they are quite sufficient) or if you want to pay a bit more for Pagid then go for it. The 1144's are more than capable and can withstand quite a bit of aggro. I used them for Le Mans last year and a bit of track time.
Cerberas
...brakes matter 
I recommend Mintex 1144's as a replacement for the Ferodo originals (although they are quite sufficient) or if you want to pay a bit more for Pagid then go for it. The 1144's are more than capable and can withstand quite a bit of aggro. I used them for Le Mans last year and a bit of track time.
Cerberas
...brakes matter Cooky said:
I had EBC Greenstuff in mine when I bought it, First thing I did was bin them, what a pile of over-marketed shyte, they break off in chunks, judder like hell, squeel, and the dust is ridiculous...apart from all these reasons they couldn't stop for shit.
I recommend Mintex 1144's as a replacement for the Ferodo originals (although they are quite sufficient) or if you want to pay a bit more for Pagid then go for it. The 1144's are more than capable and can withstand quite a bit of aggro. I used them for Le Mans last year and a bit of track time.
Cerberas ...brakes matter
Can you order these from a good quality motor factors?or do they have to be from a specialist?I recommend Mintex 1144's as a replacement for the Ferodo originals (although they are quite sufficient) or if you want to pay a bit more for Pagid then go for it. The 1144's are more than capable and can withstand quite a bit of aggro. I used them for Le Mans last year and a bit of track time.
Cerberas
...brakes matter 
Ireland said:
Daftlad said:
Stay clear of EBC greenstuff - They are pretty poor.
Oh.
Hello from Andy Freeman the owner of EBC Brakes.
I am to say the least dissappointed that there is such a misconception about our Green and other ranges of pads and want to put this straight.
First please read below the latest compound versions we make, we have changed compounds many times through the years in fact most compounds get changed at least once a year in response to feedback. We make all our pads in the UK and respond and listen to customers, please dont treat us like a bunch of t w a t s which some of forum posts insinuate, we are Britains largest and finest manufacturer of pads and rotors and unlike others we still make our pads here,and have NOT run off the Eastern block or China to make stuff cheaper like ALL our competitors have done.
If you look on the box end labels you will see the material codes and this tells you if you have the latest materials or old stuff......ASK your retailer for these material codes.
Latest Greenstuff is AF 44/69 resin changed to produce a softer pad with less noise and slightly more grip appropriate for cars below 200BHP and not for racing at all, unless on very light cars like Caterhams and hillclimbs etc
Latest Redstuff is AF88/67 and just recently shanged to AF88/71 these two mods were made to OFFSET disc scoring reported on EVO's and reduce dust and noise at very low speeds. Only for fast street and NEVER for racing as life not up to it on a track.
Latest Yellowstuff is DM 1793 and DM 1846 which has been around for a year and is used on all UK Police chase cars and race use and adopted by Silverstone on their Elise's and Porsche fleet yet is fully streetable and a brilliant pad. The 1846 is fine for street but track work should always now use the 1793 version and that is what Silverstone use.
Then please guys ALWAYS read our website,we have our own webmaster,update the site daily and lots of good info on there.
Hope this is of use to those of you interested in a solution rather than making wild and unfair comments based on bad advice you may have received.
Please appreciate it is difficult for us or anyone to educate hundreds of stockists with turnover of staff and sometimes they even get it wrong,thanks guys
I am to say the least dissappointed that there is such a misconception about our Green and other ranges of pads and want to put this straight.
First please read below the latest compound versions we make, we have changed compounds many times through the years in fact most compounds get changed at least once a year in response to feedback. We make all our pads in the UK and respond and listen to customers, please dont treat us like a bunch of t w a t s which some of forum posts insinuate, we are Britains largest and finest manufacturer of pads and rotors and unlike others we still make our pads here,and have NOT run off the Eastern block or China to make stuff cheaper like ALL our competitors have done.
If you look on the box end labels you will see the material codes and this tells you if you have the latest materials or old stuff......ASK your retailer for these material codes.
Latest Greenstuff is AF 44/69 resin changed to produce a softer pad with less noise and slightly more grip appropriate for cars below 200BHP and not for racing at all, unless on very light cars like Caterhams and hillclimbs etc
Latest Redstuff is AF88/67 and just recently shanged to AF88/71 these two mods were made to OFFSET disc scoring reported on EVO's and reduce dust and noise at very low speeds. Only for fast street and NEVER for racing as life not up to it on a track.
Latest Yellowstuff is DM 1793 and DM 1846 which has been around for a year and is used on all UK Police chase cars and race use and adopted by Silverstone on their Elise's and Porsche fleet yet is fully streetable and a brilliant pad. The 1846 is fine for street but track work should always now use the 1793 version and that is what Silverstone use.
Then please guys ALWAYS read our website,we have our own webmaster,update the site daily and lots of good info on there.
Hope this is of use to those of you interested in a solution rather than making wild and unfair comments based on bad advice you may have received.
Please appreciate it is difficult for us or anyone to educate hundreds of stockists with turnover of staff and sometimes they even get it wrong,thanks guys
Andy,
Good to see the 'head honchos' coming on here.
Do a search and you will see there are plenty of people out there who are more than happy with the pads you supply. I'm one of them.
Only recent discussion was the fact that it was necessary to 'dress' the pads to fit, without catching, in some AP racing calipers.
Been using your pads for years, and the reds have just got better and better. I do remember the odd 'oh sh*t!' moment in my 300zx when the pads were cold. But not any more.
I use reds in my sprint/hillclimb Cerbera and they work very well from cold.
Tim
Good to see the 'head honchos' coming on here.
Do a search and you will see there are plenty of people out there who are more than happy with the pads you supply. I'm one of them.
Only recent discussion was the fact that it was necessary to 'dress' the pads to fit, without catching, in some AP racing calipers.
Been using your pads for years, and the reds have just got better and better. I do remember the odd 'oh sh*t!' moment in my 300zx when the pads were cold.
But not any more.I use reds in my sprint/hillclimb Cerbera and they work very well from cold.
Tim
.First up, thanks to Mr. Freeman for taking the trouble to post here.
It sounds like most of the complaints are about the Greenstuff pads, which, by your own admission, are pretty unsuitable for Cerberas.
P.s. I run Yellows at the moment, which I'm very happy with.
It sounds like most of the complaints are about the Greenstuff pads, which, by your own admission, are pretty unsuitable for Cerberas.
Andy Freeman said:
Latest Greenstuff is AF 44/69 resin changed to produce a softer pad with less noise and slightly more grip appropriate for cars below 200BHP and not for racing at all, unless on very light cars like Caterhams and hillclimbs etc
I haven't seen your very latest packaging, but perhaps if words to the effect of the above were printed on the box, or if your distributors were better educated, you wouldn't suffer negative PR as a result of people fitting inappropriate pads.P.s. I run Yellows at the moment, which I'm very happy with.
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