Ahhh starter motor again

[BLUETHUNDER]

Im sitting here waiting for my third lift on the back of a flat bed in little over a year.This time with the starter motor.This will be the second one in 18 months.With this one which, is brand new,not even lasting 10.Cerbera ownership really does p**s you off at times.

[Raw Cerb]

Oh know the feeling, and if only some anorak would please solve the issue once and for all. Alternatively, if only I could remove and fit a starter in 20-30 minutes (as some claim to be able to do).

[BLUETHUNDER]

Well i believe the cause to be down to the heat coming off of the mild steel manifolds.It just generates to much heat under there.I do believe that Clevor Trevor are offering some sort of heat shield.I will be investing in it once this one is done.

[The AJP Griff]

BLUETHUNDER said:

Well i believe the cause to be down to the heat coming off of the mild steel manifolds.It just generates to much heat under there.I do believe that Clevor Trevor are offering some sort of heat shield.I will be investing in it once this one is done.

If it's due to heat then i could be much like the Griffs and Chims,where the solenoid dries out and gets sticky,trying to draw too many amps,then the minimal gauge wiring cant supply the power needed?I've heard of people stripping the solenoid and re-lubing with great success.Wrapping in heatsheild certainly seems to have worked on my griff,and the modwise hot start wiring mod also works well.Could be a lot cheaper and more reliable than to keep replacing starters.

[julian64]

Is the replacement part a refurb or a whole new part. Cos if not I would be interested to get your old one to take apart and find out why this happens.

[BLUETHUNDER]

Its going to be a new one.

[julian64]

can I have your old one if your going to throw it away.

[JensenA]

BLUETHUNDER said:

Its going to be a new one.

Make sure you get the right one - I had 2 supplied by Racing Green, 1st one lasted 10 minutes (literally) in the workshop, did about 5 starts and packed up. Replacement one supplied by Racing Green was fine.
In both cases what was ordered was "A starter Motor for a Cerbera 4.5", however both motors were different in that the solenoid housing on each one differed.

[BLUETHUNDER]

Im afraid its being exchanged for a new one Julian.If it was the case that i was left with it,then i would have been more than happy to have given it to you.

[julian64]

Shame, although I blame not knowing the reason for so many starter motoro failures. I wonder what they do with the old ones?

[BLUETHUNDER]

Recon them i suppose?

[350Matt]

The main problem is heat and lots of it
There is little or no airflow over the top of the bell-housing as there is a socking great air-con pump in the way.
This isn't helped by the tightly packed exhausts in the tunnel and the cats cooking the gearbox

So as a fix, or at least to alleviate the problem

1) De-cat, this will reduce heat in the manifolds (less back-pressure) and remove a heat source from under the box

2) Wrap or ceramic coat the the manifolds to keep the heat in the pipe at least until its under the car and in the airflow

3) Fit some ducting to direct air from the front of the car to into the vee

4) Ensure that the big red lead from battery is in good condition (not stiffened with heat) as this gets cooked, its cheap and easy to replace.

Matt

[RUSSELLM]

My Tilton one lasted almost ten years.

The CE Smith one off ebay lasted ten minutes.

And the original Tilton one once refurbed has been going strong ever since.

There are some Tilton dealers in the UK, not cheap though.

[Cyclone1]

The Nissan ones seem to be lasting quite well also.

[BLUETHUNDER]

RUSSELLM said:

My Tilton one lasted almost ten years.

The CE Smith one off ebay lasted ten minutes.

And the original Tilton one once refurbed has been going strong ever since.

There are some Tilton dealers in the UK, not cheap though.

Its a brand new Tilton thats on there at £352.

[RUSSELLM]

Ouch.

Can I ask where you bought it from ?