Cerbera spinning off track at Bedford Autodrome
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Well I can't wait to hear everyone's various verdicts on what I did wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Uo1Dfz8AI
Anyway, my analysis is thus:
Deciding whether to call it a day, say to passenger "one more lap then before we head off?" - "ok then sure", so we opt not to follow the porsche into the pits and do a last lap, and get home early enough.
so just after the pit entry, porsche clears off into the pits, I get on the gas coming out of the apex of the right hand corner leading on to a bit of straight outside the pits/garages, clipping the kerb a little as I do so.
Clipping the kerb unsettles the rear end a bit, starting the skid, Looks like I overcompensated a bit on the correction. This in itself wasnt the final straw, I probably could have corrected that but for the surface change to the concrete and the little dip that accompanies it - this throws the back end out totally and off I go, spinning round entering the grass backwards, crossing over the pit lane that leads out onto the track (in front of a surprised nsx which was about to come out onto the track!) stopping inches from the barriers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Uo1Dfz8AI
Anyway, my analysis is thus:
Deciding whether to call it a day, say to passenger "one more lap then before we head off?" - "ok then sure", so we opt not to follow the porsche into the pits and do a last lap, and get home early enough.
so just after the pit entry, porsche clears off into the pits, I get on the gas coming out of the apex of the right hand corner leading on to a bit of straight outside the pits/garages, clipping the kerb a little as I do so.
Clipping the kerb unsettles the rear end a bit, starting the skid, Looks like I overcompensated a bit on the correction. This in itself wasnt the final straw, I probably could have corrected that but for the surface change to the concrete and the little dip that accompanies it - this throws the back end out totally and off I go, spinning round entering the grass backwards, crossing over the pit lane that leads out onto the track (in front of a surprised nsx which was about to come out onto the track!) stopping inches from the barriers.
Revised idea: too enthusiastic, lifted too much when correcting... but yeah, not entirely sure, wasnt there. 
Very impressive smoke tho!
A Cerb being used properly!
Good job the ground wasnt rough/ it wasnt any other track - that could have been a biggy!!
Edit again: Should just stress im a rubbish driver and therefore my opinion is useless..
Very impressive smoke tho!
A Cerb being used properly!Good job the ground wasnt rough/ it wasnt any other track - that could have been a biggy!!
Edit again: Should just stress im a rubbish driver and therefore my opinion is useless..
Edited by BCA on Monday 26th November 20:36
Power on slightly too early out of the corner befor the car was totally straight. Add that to the tyre on the white line and you've got the start of the back end stepping out. Add in a possible slight over compensation, along with the "oh my god" throttle off and you've got the classic spin out and crash we see so often on TV reality police chase shows.
Now a good video would have been easing off the throttle slightly, catching the tail out moment and holding it with a big smokey tyre sideways drift - top gear style.
Although I'd probably have been on the grass as well. When these go, they go very quick
Now a good video would have been easing off the throttle slightly, catching the tail out moment and holding it with a big smokey tyre sideways drift - top gear style.
Although I'd probably have been on the grass as well. When these go, they go very quick
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Edited by AlVal on Tuesday 27th November 08:15
Bet it was scary! (No answer required!)It looks as if you were too slow removing the correction and it developed into a tank slapper. That's a corner that I'm always a bit cautious about because there's a very solid barrier on the infield. The moment there's any prospect of it heading off towards the infield I would have been standing on the brakes rather than risk trying to catch the slide.
Looks like you lifted off ever so slightly mid-corner causing the rear end to lighten.
Please don't be offended if I point out that your steering seemed a little too aggressive - you change direction too quickly IMO, and literally threw the car into the corner.
Cool spin and tyre smoke though
Please don't be offended if I point out that your steering seemed a little too aggressive - you change direction too quickly IMO, and literally threw the car into the corner.
Cool spin and tyre smoke though
I watched part of a film last night, called Tokyo Drift 26, which has made it into the top 5 of my all time worst films list.
Anyway, having watched the drivers handle their cars, my advice would be:
As the back starts to drift, pull on the hand-brake slightly, giving it some heel and toe, look over at your passenger, smile, change the CD track to 'Raw Power' by Iggy Pop and the Stooges, hit the gas, off with the handbrake and bingo, straight out of the corner.
It's that easy!
Anyway, having watched the drivers handle their cars, my advice would be:
As the back starts to drift, pull on the hand-brake slightly, giving it some heel and toe, look over at your passenger, smile, change the CD track to 'Raw Power' by Iggy Pop and the Stooges, hit the gas, off with the handbrake and bingo, straight out of the corner.
It's that easy!
When cerbs let go, they do let go.
I think smoothness is the key to Cerbs at speed, unless you're a Tiff Needell type
Was standing on the pit lane wall at Anglesey last Saturday, lots of M3's getting giddy showing off oversteer to their mates, until one overdid it just a tad, & ploughed head long into the concrete pit lane wall, right at my feet, i got covered in glass, the car was a twisted wreck, luckily, no-one seriously hurt..... serves to remind you to tread carefully!
I think smoothness is the key to Cerbs at speed, unless you're a Tiff Needell type
Was standing on the pit lane wall at Anglesey last Saturday, lots of M3's getting giddy showing off oversteer to their mates, until one overdid it just a tad, & ploughed head long into the concrete pit lane wall, right at my feet, i got covered in glass, the car was a twisted wreck, luckily, no-one seriously hurt..... serves to remind you to tread carefully!
From watching the vid a few times it looks like you just got the power down a little to early combined with a dip that unsettled the car further from then on i don't think there was a lot you could do unless you are Schumacher or Bosscerbera maybe. Less aggressive on throttle out of corner? 
Well I'll put my twopenneth in and say check the rim of the tyre in case hard cornering causes your outside tyre to rub on the rim of the body. Tell tale molten rubber deposits on the rim. I rekon I could see the smoke from the outside tyre before you spun
Although I'd have to disagree with the previous poster. The Cerb lets go round a corner very slowly compared to small cars with weight over the rear wheels.
The Cerb on the other hand is the ultimate drift car.
Although I'd have to disagree with the previous poster. The Cerb lets go round a corner very slowly compared to small cars with weight over the rear wheels.
The Cerb on the other hand is the ultimate drift car.
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