Experiences with built-in navigation systems (becker)
Experiences with built-in navigation systems (becker)
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flyingdutchie

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873 posts

224 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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Want tto throw that awful pioneerstereo out and put a Becker Traffic Pro High Speed in. Navigation.

It seems that this system needs a speedsignal, probably from the speedometer. Does anyone has experience in this? The newer indianapolis does not seem to need this speedsignal.


Steve_T

6,356 posts

302 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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Speak to Carl Baker of Car and Bike Installations - although he's more well known for his alarm system knowledge, he has lots of experience with Becker head units too. +44 772 072 3407 or info<at>tvruk.tv

Steve.

coey 4.2

67 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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Hi, i do have some experience with satnav and the alike!
The installed systems (like the Traffic pro) normally require a 'speed pulse' signal which you could get of the speedo (as the speedo uses a signal not cable)
Also many systems like the Alpine require connections to the reverse light and hand brake.
If you don't connect the speed pulse it will function but will be slow to respond at junctions etc.
Hope this helps.

Nefarious

989 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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I had that Becker unit in the family car one before last (a Mondeo St220, for my sins), and didn't really get on with it very well.

The lack of map screen is a major minus, as it can lead to some very confusing situations, such as negotiating a mini roundabout, when the voice suddenly says "now turn left" (i.e. exit the roundabout), when what it actually means is "keep going straight over the roundabout that you'd barely noticed was there".

Not having a screen also means that inputting addresses is a rather convoluted process of knob twiddling and button pressing. At least its so faffy that there's no question of trying to do it whilst driving.

TBH - having used TomTom and Syrius systems afterwards, I didn't think the database was terribly clever either, although its probably been updated since I had mine.

All in all, if it were me, I'd spend my money on a decent stereo to fill the hole in the dash and buy a TomTom One for £120. That does speed cameras as well, which is an added bonus.

julian64

14,325 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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The BMW built in sat navs seem to take advantage of a set of gyros which make then almost instant when you are cornering compared with tomtom. Would it be worth looking to see if aftermarkets do this?

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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Personally I dont see the point of expensive Built in Sat Nav. I've used a Tom Tom One (£120 ish) and it does th Job, taken me though France, Switxerland, UK and Cleethorpes. Does the job and you can move it from Car to Car.

flyingdutchie

Original Poster:

873 posts

224 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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Reason for a Becker built in for me is that I do not like seperate screens in cars and wires. The quality of the music is more than enough for me. Like to listen to the engine!

A good second hand comes for about 250-300 euros and I do not have to look to an awful japanese style radio.

Can anyone tel me which wire from the speedo to use for the speedsignal? Otherwise I think I will look for a Becker Indianapolis which has Bleutooth also. These do not seem to need a speedsignal.


julian64

14,325 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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JensenA said:
Personally I dont see the point of expensive Built in Sat Nav. I've used a Tom Tom One (£120 ish) and it does th Job, taken me though France, Switxerland, UK and Cleethorpes. Does the job and you can move it from Car to Car.
Cos mine reroutes you through traffic jams smile, whereas tomtom takes you neatly to the back of them.

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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julian64 said:
JensenA said:
Personally I dont see the point of expensive Built in Sat Nav. I've used a Tom Tom One (£120 ish) and it does th Job, taken me though France, Switxerland, UK and Cleethorpes. Does the job and you can move it from Car to Car.
Cos mine reroutes you through traffic jams smile, whereas tomtom takes you neatly to the back of them.
Your not using it properly then - Bad workmen alway blame their tools smile

Nefarious

989 posts

295 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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JensenA said:
julian64 said:
Bad workmen alway blame their tools smile
What do bad toolmakers blame? tongue out

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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Nefarious said:
JensenA said:
julian64 said:
Bad workmen alway blame their tools smile
What do bad toolmakers blame? tongue out
errrr....ummmmm.....let me think now.......I'll get back to you later on banghead laugh

julian64

14,325 posts

284 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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JensenA said:
Nefarious said:
JensenA said:
julian64 said:
Bad workmen alway blame their tools smile
What do bad toolmakers blame? tongue out
errrr....ummmmm.....let me think now.......I'll get back to you later on banghead laugh
Nefarious said:
This, changing everyones quotes is funny...

AlVal

1,891 posts

294 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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i got a blaupunkt amsterdam nav 35, which does everything in a single din headunit, usb mp3, bluetooth phone, satnav, all for under £300.

The only catch seems to be that it takes an age to calculate a route, which is annoying, otherwise excellent

flyingdutchie

Original Poster:

873 posts

224 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Bought a 2 year old Becker Indianapolis yesterday for 200 pounds. Hardly used. Came with cables for Ipod etc etc.

Should be doing fine.