Indian take-away crash disaster
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jonbarrett said:
Just went for a take-away and as I walked back to the car I watched a woman reverse into the back of the cerbera. Crunch, crack, disaster. Took the details, called insurance and now I wait.
I feel for you fella 
Vesuvius 996 said:
I hope you hit her like a ginger step child.
Could be a free respray as well - a lot of the Techincal Info for paint on TVR's s states 'Matching not possible - Full respreay only'
te luck.Hard luch mate. I know how gutting it is.
I was having a drink (orange juice) with an old PHer AngusFaldo in a pub garden some years back in Letchworth.
Angus was chatting away as I was watching this old git in a silver golf reverse toward my mint Griffith. Old stuff stops about 2 feet from the front of Griff. I'm thinking, phew, there was me thinking the worse. Then instead of moving forward into the grand canyon sized space he had made for himself, he reverses again. And bang! Queue Griff alarm and me with my head in my hands
Did get the silly sods details, after he tried telling me there was no damage. He changed his mind when I dialled 999. Luckily it was only the Armourfend that got torn.
Hope your car gets put back to the way it was or better chap.
I was having a drink (orange juice) with an old PHer AngusFaldo in a pub garden some years back in Letchworth.
Angus was chatting away as I was watching this old git in a silver golf reverse toward my mint Griffith. Old stuff stops about 2 feet from the front of Griff. I'm thinking, phew, there was me thinking the worse. Then instead of moving forward into the grand canyon sized space he had made for himself, he reverses again. And bang! Queue Griff alarm and me with my head in my hands
Did get the silly sods details, after he tried telling me there was no damage. He changed his mind when I dialled 999. Luckily it was only the Armourfend that got torn.
Hope your car gets put back to the way it was or better chap.
Thanks for all the comments, I feel mighty cheered up. A good look in the light shows it's mainly abrasion damage but down to the glass. However, fibre glass is a strange material and there could be more damage underneath, I'll wait for an expert opinion.
Jensen the colour is Viper blue, a dark metallic blue. I assume it was used on the Dodge Viper.
Jensen the colour is Viper blue, a dark metallic blue. I assume it was used on the Dodge Viper.
A worrying factor is the "cheap" Cerberas in the classifieds. If insurance companies take the value of these cars and factor in repair bills like grahamn's £8.5K then more of these cars will be written off after minor shunts.
Even if you buy off insurer and have the repair done you will still have the stigma of the fact it was a write-off on the V5 and much lower resale value.
Even if you buy off insurer and have the repair done you will still have the stigma of the fact it was a write-off on the V5 and much lower resale value.
Storer said:
A worrying factor is the "cheap" Cerberas in the classifieds. If insurance companies take the value of these cars and factor in repair bills like grahamn's £8.5K then more of these cars will be written off after minor shunts.
Even if you buy off insurer and have the repair done you will still have the stigma of the fact it was a write-off on the V5 and much lower resale value.
To true. The big problem with these types of repair is the difficulty of matching in the paint. If this can't be done and a full respray is required, then the cost of the paint becomes a big issue. Mine was about £380 a litre and then £170 a litre for the laquer. This came to about £4-£4.5k just for paint and laquer. For some of the more expensive paints this cost could easily double. Even if you buy off insurer and have the repair done you will still have the stigma of the fact it was a write-off on the V5 and much lower resale value.
My Cerbera is in for a rear end shunt repair at the moment caused by a lady running into me at a roundabout. Her insurance company, Saga, have been excellent so far. They arranged for my car to be collected from East Anglia, and taken to Blackpool 300 miles away, to be repaired and have given me a brand new Porsche Boxster S to run around in for the next few weeks. That must be costing a few quid, and that is before they start on the repair work
Tony
Tony
jonbarrett said:
............Jensen the colour is Viper blue, a dark metallic blue. I assume it was used on the Dodge Viper.
The Dodge Viper Blue is called 'Viper GTS Effect' and the TVR Code should be 8ML9B or 164. Du Pont list a match for this paint, and do NOT state tht a full respray is required. Other manufacturers like Sikkens, do not even list the paint. So if you took the car to repaired at a Paint shop that uses Sikkens paints (for example) then you might have a case for asking for a full respray.
Jensen thanks for the info.
Good news, bodyshop called today. Based in Southend. The chap has been repairing TVR body work for 30-years and actually owns a Cerbera. Whole rear end will need checking for hidden damage. Looks like Viper blue can be matched so no need for a complete respray.
Good news, bodyshop called today. Based in Southend. The chap has been repairing TVR body work for 30-years and actually owns a Cerbera. Whole rear end will need checking for hidden damage. Looks like Viper blue can be matched so no need for a complete respray.
May I ask why its apparently so hard to colour match TVRs? Were they just really lax are getting the tints correct, so every car came out a slightly different shade of whichever colour?
Having said that, surely decent bodyshops can analyse a paint colour and not even need a paint code?
Having said that, surely decent bodyshops can analyse a paint colour and not even need a paint code?
jonbarrett said:
Thanks for all the comments, I feel mighty cheered up. A good look in the light shows it's mainly abrasion damage but down to the glass. However, fibre glass is a strange material and there could be more damage underneath, I'll wait for an expert opinion.
Jensen the colour is Viper blue, a dark metallic blue. I assume it was used on the Dodge Viper.
If possible you should use it for a few weeks or more as any hidden shatters will take a while to show up.Jensen the colour is Viper blue, a dark metallic blue. I assume it was used on the Dodge Viper.
jammy_basturd said:
May I ask why its apparently so hard to colour match TVRs? Were they just really lax are getting the tints correct, so every car came out a slightly different shade of whichever colour?
Having said that, surely decent bodyshops can analyse a paint colour and not even need a paint code?
Are you sitting comfortably..............Having said that, surely decent bodyshops can analyse a paint colour and not even need a paint code?
Using the example of Viper GTS Effect. This is the mixing code for Du Pont Cromax paint for 1 Litre, all the figures are in mls, and are cumulative.
Metallic Low Viscosity binder 152.5
Metallic High viscosity binder 436.1
Fast Blue HS 677.5
Blue Pearl 779.3
Coarse Aluminium 875.5
Violet 951.0
Crystal Silver EFX 996.7
Green Shade Blue 1023.1
White LS 1032.9
So to mix this paint you have to be pretty accurate in your measurements. When Dodge mix it they may order a batch in of hundreds of litres for the production line, using paint from Du Pont.
The next batch might be using paint from Sikkens, so it will be slightly different, even from the same manufacturer it may vary slightly.
When TVR mix up the paint to spray a car, they will mix enough for that one car, and if it's mixed by hand, then it has the potential to vary from the last mix they made.
A lot of colours have variations, I did a Honda S2000 in Milano red a few weeks ago, although I had the correct code there were 7 variations for it, so you have to use your eye to select the right one, hope you selected the right one, and then ensure you mix it accurately!
So were TVR a bit lax? Not really, but it is understandable how the colours can vary.
Special effect paints like Reflex and Chameleon are nightmares, with too many variables to get an exact match. A Dark colour may have a blue base, but what Blue was it? What type of reflex paint did they use? How many coats were applied? etc etc. However you can sometimes get away with a spot repairs low down on a
Right, I need a pint now
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