Wanting a Cerb in the next couple of months
Wanting a Cerb in the next couple of months
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jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Well, i'm gonna be in the market for buying a Cerbera within the next couple of months (hopefully). Just to kind of introduce myself - i'm Leigh, and i've been addicted to TVRs for as long as i can remember. My father-in-law used to be the sole supplier of auto paints to TVR too (salesmen for ICI).

I've been round the factory when it was running, and that made me more determined to own one. I've got a Kawasaki ZX-9 at the moment as my quick transport, unfortunately i've just got a VW Bora diesel as my 4-wheeled transport. So, i've got the experience of handling a lot of power from the bike - i just want to use that experience to pilot a Cerb now smile

So, the other part of this is the choice of Cerb - i've decided on and AJP V8, but i'm under the impression that there are two (from reading on here) - the 4.2 and 4.5. Is there anything that would sway me to one or the other? And also, anything major that i should be looking for (apart from a recent rebuild!)

Leigh

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

233 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Hi Leigh,

Look forward to seeing you on a run soon.

AJP8 in either guise will blow your socks off.

Someone with a whole lot more knowledge than me will be along shortly to fill in the blanks.

See you soon,
Donny
driving


jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

242 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I believe I'm right in saying that the later cars are generally the 4.5s, and so they've had slightly more development work on them to iron out any issues.

Having said that, any 5-10 year old Cerb has probably been around long enough now to have had most issues sorted out. The problems you'll start seeing now will probably be mainly electrical, as electrical connectors corrode in about 10-15 years (depending on whether the car has been garaged, etc). I've been replacing all the connectors in my doors with AMP Superseal connectors in order to fix a couple of problems and catch any future ones.

jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Thanks guys - like i said, it'll probably be at least a couple of months (ie. when finances allow - i'm slowly growing my business at the moment) before i'm properly in the market for one, but i like to look into things with plenty of time.

Plus, i usually end up buying stuff earlier if i'm looking into it wink

Leigh

brakedust300

1,059 posts

239 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Both 4.2 and 4.5 are amazing engines, the 4.5 has more tuning potential than the 4.2 and on paper the 4.5 is faster with 420bhp stated (360 on 4.2) although this is only achievable with a re-map, linked decats and whirlwind induction. But a standard 4.5 will make about the same power as a 4.2.

I have a 4.5 and my friends neighbor has a 4.2 and both sound similar (almost like a bike with de-cats!) and are so fast its just daft!

Make sure you get a good and you wont regret it

And welcome to the forum

jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Thanks guys - i'm really looking forward to the whole TVR experience, so i'll be working my bks off to get the money together (gotta pay my credit cards off first!).

Leigh

Storer

5,024 posts

245 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Just be aware that these are expensive cars to run. They may be relatively cheap to buy but you will probably need about £3000 a year to keep it going (servicing, tyres, repairs) and if you are unlucky you may need £6000 for an engine rebuild.

If you get the upgrade bug then the bills can quickly mount too.

But they are addictive and there is little else out there with similar performance on 4 wheels for the money.

Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

231 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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jokeruk said:
Thanks guys - i'm really looking forward to the whole TVR experience, so i'll be working my bks off to get the money together (gotta pay my credit cards off first!).

Leigh
You appear to be in a similar boat to me! Only thing is I've got to finish fixing a few toy cars and sell them before I can even think about a Cerb.

jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Storer said:
Just be aware that these are expensive cars to run. They may be relatively cheap to buy but you will probably need about £3000 a year to keep it going (servicing, tyres, repairs) and if you are unlucky you may need £6000 for an engine rebuild.

If you get the upgrade bug then the bills can quickly mount too.

But they are addictive and there is little else out there with similar performance on 4 wheels for the money.
Yeah - thats not a problem, paying my credit cards off is a whole lot more than £3000/year - hence the reason that i'm paying them off before i get one.

Plus, my business is growing all the time - which helps!

Old Geezer

3,598 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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Leigh
A couple of months will be winter!!
Just be aware you need to be very careful in the wet!!!

You could try this guy!
http://www.findasportscar.co.uk/
For advice.
Or perhaps one of the TVR indie snear you for advice.

But one thing I can tell you is you won't regret it!

I found a one owner car in February, so there are perhaps still a few unmolested one about.

jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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I'm ok with dealing with lots of power in the wet because of my bike - Kawasakis generally have a (deserved) reputation for being a bit of an animal!

At the end of the day, you don't have to push it everywhere (well, not quite anyway!)

Leigh

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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jokeruk said:
I'm ok with dealing with lots of power in the wet because of my bike - Kawasakis generally have a (deserved) reputation for being a bit of an animal!

At the end of the day, you don't have to push it everywhere (well, not quite anyway!)

Leigh
Yeah i thought that too, im new to TVR's and thought i could handle power in the wet until i took mine to work in the lashing down rain, i must say it was interesting travelling along straight roads sideways laugh

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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I think I recall hearing that most TVR accidents happened in the first year of ownership, no 3rd party involved within xx metres of a roundabout - this could be nonsense but does serve as a warning.

I'm not sure on the characteristics of the SP6, but the APJ creates its power at mid revs which is likely to get you in trouble if you're not used to it.

...and sometimes when you are wink

jokeruk

Original Poster:

97 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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Fair enough - you've got them, i haven't!

I'll be careful mummy, i promise smile

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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jokeruk said:
Fair enough - you've got them, i haven't!

I'll be careful mummy, i promise smile
laugh just a word of warning thats all as i found there was no warning as to when it was going to snap, it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next. Like i said though im new to TVR too so maybe it was because im not used to the car.

They are fantastic to drive though. have fun. thumbupthumbup

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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WorAl said:
jokeruk said:
Fair enough - you've got them, i haven't!

I'll be careful mummy, i promise smile
laugh just a word of warning thats all as i found there was no warning as to when it was going to snap, it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next. Like i said though im new to TVR too so maybe it was because im not used to the car.

They are fantastic to drive though. have fun. thumbupthumbup
Errrrm, explain, ...... "it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next.

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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JensenA said:
WorAl said:
jokeruk said:
Fair enough - you've got them, i haven't!

I'll be careful mummy, i promise smile
laugh just a word of warning thats all as i found there was no warning as to when it was going to snap, it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next. Like i said though im new to TVR too so maybe it was because im not used to the car.

They are fantastic to drive though. have fun. thumbupthumbup
Errrrm, explain, ...... "it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next.


It was raining HEAVY, water all over the road like a sheet and got onto a straight just off a roundabout near mine and put me foot down to get passed a car on my inside and the tail started to waggle about, quite a bit too. eek i thought and backed off a bit to get some grip.

grahamn

1,777 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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WorAl said:
JensenA said:
WorAl said:
jokeruk said:
Fair enough - you've got them, i haven't!

I'll be careful mummy, i promise smile
laugh just a word of warning thats all as i found there was no warning as to when it was going to snap, it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next. Like i said though im new to TVR too so maybe it was because im not used to the car.

They are fantastic to drive though. have fun. thumbupthumbup
Errrrm, explain, ...... "it was just going straight one second, then sideways the next.


It was raining HEAVY, water all over the road like a sheet and got onto a straight just off a roundabout near mine and put me foot down to get passed a car on my inside and the tail started to waggle about, quite a bit too. eek i thought and backed off a bit to get some grip.
I could be wrong but this sounds like a classic case of to much power to quickly. In wet conditions you need to be very progressive when feeding in the power. These cars have not got a long throttle for nothing.

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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grahamn said:
These cars have not got a long throttle for nothing.
TVR

Long Throttle Travel = Traction Control

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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brakedust300 said:
although this is only achievable with a re-map, linked decats and whirlwind short induction.
EFA as there is more than one supplier that does the job wink