Max Tyre Width?
Max Tyre Width?
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Guy J Russell

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346 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Brought the Cerb home last night after taking the girlfriend out for a meal and thought I'd use it for work today. Came out this morning.... White Over with SNOW!!! Only got about 3mm left on the rears and it did not like it at all!!! So I'd made my mind up that when i replaced them i would try some slightly wider ones on it. I'm running 18inch Spiders shod with 255/35/18 and was thinking about 265/35/18 or even 275/35/18. But.... will they catch? At the moment they are fine. When i come to replace the fronts i was going to go wider there also. With the 18's the ride is quite firm over our patchwork Sheffield roads and i think the extra profile will help soften things up a little, and some rim protection would be nice as the 225/35/18 fronts are stretched onto the wheel leaving the rim sticking out way beyond the tyre just looking for the nearest kerb! frown So whats the widest that's been fitted front and rear without problems/with problems?

Brummmie

5,284 posts

251 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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265/35-18 here. 225/40-17 fronts. Either can catch at extreme situations, never on road, but track sometimes,eg Shell oils at Oulton, not enough to affect anything just noises.

itsallyellow

3,879 posts

250 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I have 300 profile slicks front and back thumbup But thats different.

On a road car you will strugle to go any bigger than 265 i believe. On the front you get away with a 235??

Mike

BCA

8,651 posts

287 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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wider tyres wont help in the snow. smile

Does anyone know the rear rim width of a standard 17" RL7s?

jesfirth

1,743 posts

272 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I think that a standard RL 17 has an 8.5" rim width.

I changed from saturn 16's with 225 45's to RL17's on the front with 235 45 R888's and had to add lock stops to prevent the tyres from rubbing on the top wishbone on full lock. The resultant turning circle appromiates a super tanker

BTW - wider tyres will make it worse in snow not better

Edited by jesfirth on Monday 5th January 15:12

Dirty Boy

14,864 posts

239 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Guy J Russell said:
The 225/35/18 fronts are stretched onto the wheel leaving the rim sticking out way beyond the tyre just looking for the nearest kerb!
I'm on 235s at the front (same rears as you) no problems (obviously) but even they look slightly stretched to me.

Guy J Russell

Original Poster:

346 posts

218 months

Sunday 11th January 2009
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Is the offset the same on the front and rear wheels? I may try the rears on the front if they are and see if they catch? It would be nice if i could get away with 255's on the front and 275's on the rear. smile Loadsa grip for turning in and stopping! biggrin

Edited by Guy J Russell on Sunday 11th January 15:22

Spawn

597 posts

226 months

Sunday 11th January 2009
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Im currently 245/45/16 at the moment... would love to go as wide as possibly in the back, I have very little tread left!

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Sunday 11th January 2009
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Spawn said:
Im currently 245/45/16 at the moment... would love to go as wide as possibly in the back, I have very little tread left!
Why do you want to go as wide as possible? I'm always intrigued as to why people want to do this. In my younger days with 'normal' cars, I always upgraded to riduculosly wide wheels and tyres because I thought it looked good, and would improve handling and grip. As I grew older and wiser I realised that wider tyres don't neccasarily increase grip, in fact they can often reduce it. There is an optimum width for each car, and that optimum depends on what you intend to use the car for. I would have thought that TVR got it pretty much spot on with the standard fittings, but I'm always open to learn more than I do. smile

Nefarious

989 posts

295 months

Sunday 11th January 2009
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A cautionary tale of fitting wider wheels: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqZ28m8uCo

Guy J Russell

Original Poster:

346 posts

218 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Although i appreciate the concerns of going too wide i wouldn't have thought that 20mm would have made that big a difference on a standard setup of 255mm as long as i reduced the pressure accordingly? My reasons for going wider are more for practicallaty reasons than anything else. Soften the ride up slightly and the main one with the fronts is so i have some rim protection. I'd gladly go wider even if performance/grip didnt alter at all just to get some rim protection from my awful parking. Even if i have to be carefull not to make the same mistake as the guy in that vid! (maybe fit some WIDE LOAD stickers?) smile

Edited by Guy J Russell on Monday 12th January 06:59

Billy_rfc

587 posts

285 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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JensenA said:
Spawn said:
Im currently 245/45/16 at the moment... would love to go as wide as possibly in the back, I have very little tread left!
Why do you want to go as wide as possible? I'm always intrigued as to why people want to do this. In my younger days with 'normal' cars, I always upgraded to riduculosly wide wheels and tyres because I thought it looked good, and would improve handling and grip. As I grew older and wiser I realised that wider tyres don't neccasarily increase grip, in fact they can often reduce it. There is an optimum width for each car, and that optimum depends on what you intend to use the car for. I would have thought that TVR got it pretty much spot on with the standard fittings, but I'm always open to learn more than I do. smile
I here what your saying there, but when you compare the rubber on the cerb to other cars with the same sort of power output, the cerb is under rubbered at the rear. I think the front is ok as is.

Edited by Billy_rfc on Monday 12th January 11:24

Guy J Russell

Original Poster:

346 posts

218 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Billy_rfc said:
JensenA said:
Spawn said:
Im currently 245/45/16 at the moment... would love to go as wide as possibly in the back, I have very little tread left!
Why do you want to go as wide as possible? I'm always intrigued as to why people want to do this. In my younger days with 'normal' cars, I always upgraded to riduculosly wide wheels and tyres because I thought it looked good, and would improve handling and grip. As I grew older and wiser I realised that wider tyres don't neccasarily increase grip, in fact they can often reduce it. There is an optimum width for each car, and that optimum depends on what you intend to use the car for. I would have thought that TVR got it pretty much spot on with the standard fittings, but I'm always open to learn more than I do. smile
I here what your saying there, but when you compare the rubber on the cerb to other cars with the same sort of power output, the cerb is under rubbered at the rear. I think the front is ok as is.

Edited by Billy_rfc on Monday 12th January 11:24
I think the argument here is more rear end weight against tyre cross sectional area in contact with the road? I may be wrong? Is what were saying here that with too wide wheels as you go over different contours in the road the tyre will ride over them instead of deforming around them actually giving you less surface area of grip? Hence the need for less pressure in wider tyres? If anyone can understand that or have i just made myself look stupid? getmecoat