APM GT CUP Cerb Rolls Out Again on Friday
APM GT CUP Cerb Rolls Out Again on Friday
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JonnyW

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867 posts

272 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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For those interested, the GT Cup Cerb rolls out again for testing at Brands on Friday.

Changes for this season are:

Pirelli Tyres as part of the series sponsorship package, which we will be testing basically to destruction on Friday.

Straight through ACT specially made exhaust to allow the air to run straight out from the bombs and across the new diffuser. Sound is awesome!

New adjustable and strengthened wishbones to give us the correct camber (designed by Andy McG and Andy Robinson) with another minor suspension upgrade from Ohlins to match the new geometry.

We've decided to leave the mapping up to 425 bhp out as at 405 there is little material gain over burning a hole in something and the power to weight limit is marginal with me having lost 10 kgs and the risk of disqualification or being bumped up into Class 2 with the 430's,997's etc..If we can hold the speed in the bends then we will be on pace anyway, so no point chasing the margins!!

Oh and a Hans device for me, feels quite restrictive so we'll see how Friday goes!!

Our first race will be the support event for the A1GP at Brands over the first May Bank Holiday weekend, the grid appears to be virtually full already with it looking like Lamborghini, Porsche, BMW, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Lotus, Marcos, Morgan, Dodge,TVR biggrin etc..being represented.

Cheers

Jonny

itsallyellow

3,879 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Good stuff! Will be intresting to see how it goes this year on the Pirreli's.

Enjoythumbup

Mike

markh1

2,846 posts

239 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Pictures please!

T8RUS

210 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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is this a all day testing?
and is it open to anyone to come and watch?smile

HarryW

16,034 posts

299 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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What times are you testing, I'm visiting my sister on Friday in Kent so I may try an hours diversion on the way there or back dependant on times, might even come in the Cerb too.

JonnyW

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867 posts

272 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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We'll be there all day from 7.30 to last outing at 4.30. Just tell them at the gate that you're coming in to see me.

jonbarrett

800 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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I'll be there.

Cerb999

193 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Explains why Andy's too busy to look at my gearbox this week!
I'll try to get along to Brands on Fri, although not in the Cerb obviously frown

Omerta

2,013 posts

281 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Good luck for the season Johnny. I'd love to see some pics of the diffuser and suspension mods, though I guess you might want to keep the details to yourself (and fair enough if you do).

SlvrCrb

1,180 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Good luck for the season. thumbup

I'm sorely tempted to come down to BH Friday to see what Andy and you have been doing to that Cerb over Winter!

Brummmie

5,284 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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What size rims/rubber have you under it?

JonnyW

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867 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Brummmie said:
What size rims/rubber have you under it?
All the wheels are specially made Compomotive offsets to ensure we keep the rubber under the arches, we aren't allowed external body mods in our regs beyond splitters and diffusers and the Cerb will qualify for historic next year which is quite restrictive. Actually we have been invited to represent Britian in the Anglo American Challenge next year, two weekend four race series in either Florida or California, and we hyave to keep as close to original as possible, so block, gearbox casing, capacity etc...so we are mindful of anything that could make us un-eligable for these wider series.

We have 9 inch 18s on the front with 245 Pirelli race tyres which are 250 Dunlop equivalents, actually they are 253 wide.

Rear are 10 x 18 with 265, which are slightly wider than the equiv Dunlop.

Cheers

John

Brummmie

5,284 posts

251 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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JonnyW said:
Brummmie said:
What size rims/rubber have you under it?
All the wheels are specially made Compomotive offsets to ensure we keep the rubber under the arches, we aren't allowed external body mods in our regs beyond splitters and diffusers and the Cerb will qualify for historic next year which is quite restrictive. Actually we have been invited to represent Britian in the Anglo American Challenge next year, two weekend four race series in either Florida or California, and we hyave to keep as close to original as possible, so block, gearbox casing, capacity etc...so we are mindful of anything that could make us un-eligable for these wider series.

We have 9 inch 18s on the front with 245 Pirelli race tyres which are 250 Dunlop equivalents, actually they are 253 wide.

Rear are 10 x 18 with 265, which are slightly wider than the equiv Dunlop.

Cheers
John
Will you share your offsets?
Did you have to do any shaving of bodywork underneath?

Congrats on the invite, go an kick some LS ass! hehe

JonnyW

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867 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Brummmie said:
JonnyW said:
Brummmie said:
What size rims/rubber have you under it?
All the wheels are specially made Compomotive offsets to ensure we keep the rubber under the arches, we aren't allowed external body mods in our regs beyond splitters and diffusers and the Cerb will qualify for historic next year which is quite restrictive. Actually we have been invited to represent Britian in the Anglo American Challenge next year, two weekend four race series in either Florida or California, and we hyave to keep as close to original as possible, so block, gearbox casing, capacity etc...so we are mindful of anything that could make us un-eligable for these wider series.

We have 9 inch 18s on the front with 245 Pirelli race tyres which are 250 Dunlop equivalents, actually they are 253 wide.

Rear are 10 x 18 with 265, which are slightly wider than the equiv Dunlop.

Cheers
John
Will you share your offsets?
Did you have to do any shaving of bodywork underneath?

Congrats on the invite, go an kick some LS ass! hehe
Give Compomoti9ve a call, they'll have my offsets on file. Be careful that racing tyres have striaght walls and just fit under the arches at the rear, which are cut out and we have less steering on the front being a race car.
You'll need to work out the additional tyre width that you'll get with road tyres if that's what you after.

SlvrCrb

1,180 posts

263 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Had a fantastic morning at Brands seeing Jonny's Cerb in action. Some static shots below but the sodding video camera battery gave up the ghost early on so I'll see what's there and add some clips in due course as the noise is evil




























Edited by SlvrCrb on Friday 27th March 17:32

Byker28i

92,088 posts

247 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Good Pics - how did he managed to grab the first garage? Great work. ;D

jonbarrett

800 posts

232 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Great to see you and the car again. Very envious re the new suspension?

Nickccc

1,682 posts

278 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Good to see the Cerb putting in a good show. Great pace and the handling looked excellent, nice and flat through the corners.
Good luck with the racing this year.
Tons more pics to check out, but for starters.




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Edited by Nickccc on Saturday 28th March 16:13

jesfirth

1,743 posts

272 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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well done john - good to see you out again

jes

JonnyW

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272 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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Thanks to everyone who showed up yesterday, we really appreciated the support and it is always great to see a few Cerbs about when we're on the track.

The pictures are great, look forwrad to seeing more!!biggrin

The one of me going through Paddock really shows the benefit of the new wishbones and the additional camber, really felt far more on it and no more washing out.

We were posting decent times by the end of it once I had got used to the new set-up and tyres, so we are very happy with the result. These are the control Pirelli tyre for the GT Cup and are a very hard compound, so I was particulalrly pleased that we got on the pace of the Ginetta G50s who were running on soft compound Michelin.

I've got to say that we are very pleased with the tyres, the wear looks minimal and we were quicker than last year and it was cold on Friday. They have to have a heat cycle and proper cool down for the chemistry to work, but once that has been done they really are very good.

Pace is right up and I am shifting earlier everywhere so the speed is being held better than before, I put this down to Andy's new suspnsion geometry and the set-up and maybe even the aero of the diffuser and exhausts.

I couldn't get out of the track when I was packing away for all of the interest by the 997 guys who were imressed by the pace of the Cerb, particulalrly when they found out that it was a standard AJP 4.5 block in a 14 year old ex road car. They loved the noise and though it had a Chevy in it!

Great start, can't wait for the races!!!

Jez, when are you getting a cage and extinguisher in yours??

All the best

Jonny

Edited by JonnyW on Saturday 28th March 17:04