where is the arial on a Cerbera
where is the arial on a Cerbera
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a1rak

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556 posts

212 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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looked in the service manual but can't find out where the arial is located on the Cerbera. My radio has very poor recepyion so I want to check the arial and its earth point.

Allandwf

1,773 posts

224 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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Don't they use the heated rear screen element. Reception is always terrible.

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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I thought (but could be mistaken) that there was a unit behind the LHS rear seat that acted as an aerial.

Something like what BMW used in the mid-90s.


If it's any help I do know alinton off here managed the impossible and improved the radio reception on his car so a PM to him might be worthwhile.

Sir Beerah

31 posts

245 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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On mine and I believe a lot of cars the aerial lead runs along the top of the transmission tunnel and joins to nothing. There used to be a thread on here about improving reception where it is now God only knows. You can as I have done extend the lead through into the boot and connect it to an ordinary telescopic aerial, you can then slide this up the drivers side roof pillar fully extended (there is enough room). I put mine in a length of garden hose before sliding it up to make sure it didn't retract and to prevent it earthig out on the roll cage. Remember to provide it with an earth to the chassis though.

plumAJP

1,149 posts

218 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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i have a black box glued to the back window with and ariel protruding through on a swivel basis. right down the bottom/centre of the back screen



Edited by plumAJP on Monday 4th May 19:47

Byker28i

91,447 posts

246 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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On my 97 4.2 it's included in the wiring loom, I think along the front dash. I replaced the FM one with a powered stuck on windscreen type, stuck to the bodywork inside the boot above the tank. Works a lot better than the standard although not perfect.

I then realised my head unit could take a dab add-on unit thats been placed next to the ECU in the passenger footwell. That aerial is again a stuck on type this time stuck to the front bulkhead passenger side.

Both work pretty well, although not perfect, but I wanted to keep the smooth lines on the outside of the car.

C3BER

4,714 posts

252 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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On the roof as its a DAB system and looks rather cool if you ask me.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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Has no one glued/attached one to the underside of the bootlid, and then carpeted over?

a1rak

Original Poster:

556 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th May 2009
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Just thought I would report back on my latest findings...I have spent 2 days tryng to solve this problem and although its better its still rubbish compared to other steel cars.
this is what I tried that DID NOT WORK so I might save you some time and money.

1 Windscreen aerial with amplifier ....no difference possibly worse.
2 windscreen aerial in different locations...still no good.
3 Rewired pos and neg supply direct to battery ..no change
4 rewired to seperate battery inside car ...still no good.
fitted suppessors to pos and ign sw feeds...no difference.
5 different head unit (Kenwood) no better

the fact that the Interference is still there when the engine is running EVEN WITH A SEPERATE BATTERY would indicate to me that problemis with airborne interference and not withn the wiring.

The only thing that has worked and improved the situation mildly is fitting the aerial in the boot, rewiring the aerial with UHF satelite screened cable (two screens)anearthing the screen at both ends.

any more suggestions / solutions would be welcome.


jesfirth

1,743 posts

271 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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I just boungth an FM ribbon aerial from PC world ran it below the upholstry on the tunnel and loose laid it in the boot above the fuel tank - works perfectly and £20 - but no AM reception

stumpyalan

621 posts

239 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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Email carl on www.tvruk.tv or ring him on 0772 072 3407 the best guy too sort it out. alan

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Friday 8th May 2009
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I can't get to sleep banghead so I dug this out.......


1) Get a replacement telescopic aerial from Halfords.  Unless you can find one with a suitable length of lead you'll need an extension co-ax cable (2m) which they also sell. This will cost you about £ 25-30 with VAT.
2) Open boot, remove Velcro cover obstructing all black boxes and CD player and lay it in the bottom of the boot.
3) Remove the CD player, there are two screws on either side of it. Also un-Velcro all electronics carefully and leave them dangling in the boot.
4) Remove the rear 'cubby hole'.  This is retained by a single wing nut which is accessible from the boot above the fuel tank, behind the CD player, black boxes etc.
5) After removing wing nut, crawl into passenger compartment, and carefully pull forward the cubbyhole which will leave the opening you’ll need to drill a hole through later.
6) Then remove passengers’ footwell under dash cover and feel lead on drivers side of radio.
7) With small slotted screwdrivers, pry into the vertical holes around the radio. Also there are tabs under the radio that need to be flattened for the Head Unit to come out.
8) Pull out the head unit and replace the existing aerial plug with the new lead.
9)  Run the new aerial cable down the curved passenger 'grab handle' (there is a wiring harness under there already) and feed the cable under the PASSENGERS SIDE OF THE transmission tunnel padding until you reach the cubby hole area between the rear seats. This will keep the aerial cable as far as possible from the wiring harness under the transmission cover.
10) Drill a hole, approx 8-10mm, suitable for passing the co-ax lead through from the car to the boot, JUST BELOW THE WINGNUT HOLE. You'd have to be trying pretty hard to drill through anything important by mistake!
11) Cover the base of the new aerial, the tip, and the ferrite bead on it with Electrical Tape to keep it from rattling when inserted in the car.
12) Then feed the new aerial lead through the hole from the boot to the passengers compartment and connect to the aerial lead from the radio.
13) Place the aerial lead under the metal rod across the cubbyhole opening, and then Cover with Electrical Tape to insure clean connection.
14) Take the aerial lead and route it across the upper lip of the boot/window junction. Then extend the new aerial and feed it up the drivers side B pillar which is fairly easy.  It's quite a big void with only the roll cage tube in there. 
My aerial seems to have wedged itself in place and doesn't rattle.  I reckon the end of the antenna is up near the drivers head.
That's all there is to it!  One dealer said they fitted an aerial as I've just described but laid it on top of the black boxes above the fuel tank.  I tried that first of all but didn't notice any difference.


Thanks to Joo

Jabbah

1,331 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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Bit of a thread resurrection but I just followed JensenA's instructions in the previous post and now have exceptionally good radio reception music

Was even easier than I thought it would be to fit.

PuffsBack

2,442 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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C3BER said:
On the roof as its a DAB system and looks rather cool if you ask me.
biggrin Exactly - and perfect reception


Byker28i

91,447 posts

246 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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I tried all fm aerials, hidden, powered in the boot, but ended up with a dab unit and aerial on the rear window. It's a jvc besting aerial so hardly noticeable but great reception.

pmessling

2,318 posts

232 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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i believe i found one inside the door seal on the passenger side, although not sure whether it was connected or not, although radio reception is non existent so i guess not