Not another starter motor ?
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I'm on my third starter motor in 5 months. I thought it was just me chewing them. First just packed up and the second almost started the car but didn't, but then kept going and going....and... until the battery ran out with smoke everywhere !!! Its difficult to disconnect the battery without your toolkit to hand. Had each replaced under WH warrenty as I think a new one is ~500 quid.
Just wondering whether each of mine has been a new or a reconditioned one.
Is it just the way I fire up ?
Just wondering whether each of mine has been a new or a reconditioned one.
Is it just the way I fire up ?
Thanks for the information so far. Congratulations on finding one that lasts 3 years. I had a "good one" which then tried to go up in smoke but and then died but had no mechanical symptoms, see comment below.
So what does the starter protection do? I can see how it could have protected the one of mine which started going up in smoke. I refrained from further exercising it when I smelled the burning insulation until it was cold and it fully recovered for another couple of months. The others all seem to suffer problems engaging with the flywheel (what flywheel I hear you ask!) Occasional misengagements become more common until eventually they just spin up to speed with a faint grinding noise as though the teeth have stripped.
I am not sure how an ECU can help with this problem but tell me more. I wonder if there is a problem with the alignment of the motor mounting on my engine that stresses the motor unduly ?
So what does the starter protection do? I can see how it could have protected the one of mine which started going up in smoke. I refrained from further exercising it when I smelled the burning insulation until it was cold and it fully recovered for another couple of months. The others all seem to suffer problems engaging with the flywheel (what flywheel I hear you ask!) Occasional misengagements become more common until eventually they just spin up to speed with a faint grinding noise as though the teeth have stripped.
I am not sure how an ECU can help with this problem but tell me more. I wonder if there is a problem with the alignment of the motor mounting on my engine that stresses the motor unduly ?
There must be something wrong though... I think the "starter protection circuit" referred to just makes sure the engine is turning over at a decent lick BEFORE starting ignition and fuelling, so that the engine doesn't misfire back into the starter motor, bashing it's teeth off and generally stressing it. I think.
Maybe that explains some of my problems, I certainly have had the occasional early firing when the engine kicks back against the starter. It doesn't seem to have done it in the last year which is maybe why I got 20,000 miles from the last starter. Wow, almost reliable!
Does anyone know how I find out the version of ECU chip or do I just trust the dealer for once ????
Does anyone know how I find out the version of ECU chip or do I just trust the dealer for once ????
got one fitted to me car. Car is at HHC for weeks (bugger). Wait will try the reciepts from Joolz after he fitted it.....hang on.....Nope, reciept dont say. I know Joolz got it from TMS so try them or give Joolz a ring. Tell him its the chip as fitted to Shauns car.(It also uses the latest fuel mappings etc so should only make the car run more economically/better.
Oh-oh... Christof's car is a practically new (well 1 year) RR version with <6000 miles, if memory serves me right... So much for "new ECU with starter motor protection". Makes you wonder how many of these well known little niggles actually ARE corrected on newer models by the factory. From feedback from various people on various niggles on various models I get the distinct impression TVR rarely correct minor issues upfront even if they know about them... is it cheaper for them not to fix these things?
Maarten
Maarten
Car is fixed. Thanks a lot to Harald Gehrke's workshop (german dealership).
And to make you guys happy, it was not TVR's fault. Something from the inside of the starter has blocked the starter...
And I'm happy again.
Remember it was the first fault after 1 year and 6000 miles, so I'm veeeery happy with the build quality.
Christof
And to make you guys happy, it was not TVR's fault. Something from the inside of the starter has blocked the starter...
And I'm happy again.
Remember it was the first fault after 1 year and 6000 miles, so I'm veeeery happy with the build quality.
Christof
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Makes you wonder how many of these well known little niggles actually ARE corrected on newer models by the factory. From feedback from various people on various niggles on various models I get the distinct impression TVR rarely correct minor issues upfront even if they know about them... is it cheaper for them not to fix these things?
Maarten
I totally agree,, if TVR had one engineer working on fixing these stupid problems they would not be the pain in the a***e that they are. I have fixed the 3 month boot light switch, and the c***p radio aerial myself. It seems that TVR don't want to fix their image. I have driven 200,000 miles in TVR's and the vast majority of my negative feelings have come from simple problems that they never fix. Does anyone from TVR read these messages and try to do anything about the simple annoyances that help to spoil their image? If you are out there, please post a reply
SXS said:
Just thought I'd wake this one up....
What happened to all these chaps????
Ferraris, jap-mobiles, other exotica, etc. by the look of it.
Beginning to think that TVR ownership, and possibly even PH membership itself (based on some conversations I've had with people over the last few months) is a phase of your life that you go through (potentially both hand-in-hand).
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