Help, Please help
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OK my clutch went in september last year and was told it was the Slave Cylinder. Had this replaced with what I was told was the upgraded part at a £££Cost.
last month the clutch went again, read a few posts on here and figured it should be the master cylinder (as slave has just been replaced). Topped it up with fluid and it lasted me approx 4 weeks till the clutch went soft when i was away this weekend. Filled up again and it got me home where i had to fill again.
I thought nothing of this until I have just moved the car today and there is a patch of fluid on the ground from where I would believe the Bell Housing is.
If the fluid is on the floor outside, could this still be the master cylinder?
If not, surely i should be able to expect the slave cylinder to last more than approx 4000 miles? am I right to assume this?
Cheers
last month the clutch went again, read a few posts on here and figured it should be the master cylinder (as slave has just been replaced). Topped it up with fluid and it lasted me approx 4 weeks till the clutch went soft when i was away this weekend. Filled up again and it got me home where i had to fill again.
I thought nothing of this until I have just moved the car today and there is a patch of fluid on the ground from where I would believe the Bell Housing is.
If the fluid is on the floor outside, could this still be the master cylinder?
If not, surely i should be able to expect the slave cylinder to last more than approx 4000 miles? am I right to assume this?
Cheers
If it's under the car then it's going to be the slave - in my experience they are just a lottery. I had a new clutch about a month ago and now already have fluid loss and spongy pedal - can't see anything around the master/footwell so I think it's probably the slave again. 
Best option is to take it back to who did the work, it's not really their fault just crappy seals, but within 12 months you might find they are willing to take it on the chin and redo the job FOC.
Best option is to take it back to who did the work, it's not really their fault just crappy seals, but within 12 months you might find they are willing to take it on the chin and redo the job FOC.
How many of you, that have experienced clutch slave failure still have the cats in place? I'm convinced the cats are too hot and too near the bell housing.
Me one failure though I do replace the seals when ever the gearbox or engine is out, which admittedly has been quite often for me.
Me one failure though I do replace the seals when ever the gearbox or engine is out, which admittedly has been quite often for me.
If the fluid is outside, and under the bell housing, then it has to be either the Slave, or the pipe connection to the slave. The Master will only leak inside the car. I'd expect the slave to last for well over 30k at least, never mind 4k!
Have you had the car standing for a few weeks? 2k miles ago I had the same symptoms as you. The car had been stood for 2 weeks, and I couldn't get it into gear. Checked and the clutch fluid was empty. I checked the master and it was dry, so the Slave was leaking! However I topped the fluid up, and it went again 1 week later. Topped it up again, and 2k miles later, l haven't lost a drop of fluid.
Ps - written on my phone, so probably a few mistakes above
Have you had the car standing for a few weeks? 2k miles ago I had the same symptoms as you. The car had been stood for 2 weeks, and I couldn't get it into gear. Checked and the clutch fluid was empty. I checked the master and it was dry, so the Slave was leaking! However I topped the fluid up, and it went again 1 week later. Topped it up again, and 2k miles later, l haven't lost a drop of fluid.
Ps - written on my phone, so probably a few mistakes above
touching cloth said:
If it's under the car then it's going to be the slave - in my experience they are just a lottery. I had a new clutch about a month ago and now already have fluid loss and spongy pedal - can't see anything around the master/footwell so I think it's probably the slave again.
I agree, it's not unheard of for them to last only a few months. I think it helps to replace the fluid at the first sign of trouble, or even preemptively - these days I ask the garage to change the clutch fluid whenever it goes somewhere for work, ie 2 or 3 times a year. s
tty though isn't it?morebeanz said:
touching cloth said:
If it's under the car then it's going to be the slave - in my experience they are just a lottery.
That may be true TC, but it is surely unacceptable. No other car suffers in the same way from such a basic issue.P.S Nick - no cats here - perish the thought.
touching cloth said:
morebeanz said:
touching cloth said:
If it's under the car then it's going to be the slave - in my experience they are just a lottery.
That may be true TC, but it is surely unacceptable. No other car suffers in the same way from such a basic issue.P.S Nick - no cats here - perish the thought.
Is there no mod that can be done...remote slave...modifying the bell housing...these sound stupid! What about a cable operated conversion or something?
Seems crazy these days to have such a weakness.
If its not the slave its the master, if its not the master its the fingers, etc
touching cloth said:
morebeanz said:
touching cloth said:
If it's under the car then it's going to be the slave - in my experience they are just a lottery.
That may be true TC, but it is surely unacceptable. No other car suffers in the same way from such a basic issue.P.S Nick - no cats here - perish the thought.
My seals went 2 years ago, I replaced them with new ones from APM and it hasn't missed a beat since.
If it's failed that quick IMHO then it's a fitting fault.
My seals lasted 8 years and 35k before they went. With new seals it should last that long again.
I did notice when rebuilding mine that the finish on the slave is shocking. Lots of sharp edges, that if not addressed before reassembly could easily knick an o-ring.
I'd take it back to whoever did the work, if you can.
If it's failed that quick IMHO then it's a fitting fault.
My seals lasted 8 years and 35k before they went. With new seals it should last that long again.
I did notice when rebuilding mine that the finish on the slave is shocking. Lots of sharp edges, that if not addressed before reassembly could easily knick an o-ring.
I'd take it back to whoever did the work, if you can.
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