To sell or to risk damaging my cerb
Discussion
My cerb is my pride and joy,but want to do a lot more track days and some drift days this year.
Do I risk damaging my car by doing the track/drift days(law of averages says that more likely to damage it doing this type of event than driving it on the road) or do I sell up and buy something more suitable.
Would love to have both just don't have the funds.
Was thinking maybee rx7 or skyline.
Or do I just stump up for repairs as and when required,would mainly be paint and bodywork damage.
Any opinions would be great.
Do I risk damaging my car by doing the track/drift days(law of averages says that more likely to damage it doing this type of event than driving it on the road) or do I sell up and buy something more suitable.
Would love to have both just don't have the funds.
Was thinking maybee rx7 or skyline.
Or do I just stump up for repairs as and when required,would mainly be paint and bodywork damage.
Any opinions would be great.
Whatever car you have, you'd run the same risk of damaging it. It all depends on the value of the car you would be using, and whether you consider it a risk worth taking. Balanced against the enjoyment you derive from it, how hard you are going to push it, and how often you are going to do it.
Edited by JensenA on Wednesday 3rd February 16:00
P666bhp said:
My cerb is my pride and joy,but want to do a lot more track days and some drift days this year.
Do I risk damaging my car by doing the track/drift days(law of averages says that more likely to damage it doing this type of event than driving it on the road) or do I sell up and buy something more suitable.
Would love to have both just don't have the funds.
Was thinking maybee rx7 or skyline.
Or do I just stump up for repairs as and when required,would mainly be paint and bodywork damage.
Any opinions would be great.
Havent done any but I think track days OK...drift days may be asking for trouble?Do I risk damaging my car by doing the track/drift days(law of averages says that more likely to damage it doing this type of event than driving it on the road) or do I sell up and buy something more suitable.
Would love to have both just don't have the funds.
Was thinking maybee rx7 or skyline.
Or do I just stump up for repairs as and when required,would mainly be paint and bodywork damage.
Any opinions would be great.
When you say 'dont have the funds' - how long will it take in increased cerb costs to offset the cost of a cheap track/drift car? Say a 200SX?
Surely a good drift car is probably not the same as a good track car?
A Cerb is going to be expensive for tyres and brakes as a regular track car. So a Caterham , Lotus Elise etc would be a better choice.
As for a drift car - I feel that a japanese car might be easier and more robust as a drift car than a Cerb.
A Cerb is going to be expensive for tyres and brakes as a regular track car. So a Caterham , Lotus Elise etc would be a better choice.
As for a drift car - I feel that a japanese car might be easier and more robust as a drift car than a Cerb.
Funds to keep the cerb in fine fettle are no problem, whatever car I have will wear items out quicker on track.
Just feel like I'm missing out a bit by being to over protective of the cerb,but seeing a car that is regularly drifted at the pod the paint really does take a battering.
Really enjoy the cerb and think it would be a great drift tool.
Do I use it and repair/ repaint body as needed or is a cerb to nice to be treated like that.
I know only I can make that decision but just want to know what other people would do?
Just feel like I'm missing out a bit by being to over protective of the cerb,but seeing a car that is regularly drifted at the pod the paint really does take a battering.
Really enjoy the cerb and think it would be a great drift tool.
Do I use it and repair/ repaint body as needed or is a cerb to nice to be treated like that.
I know only I can make that decision but just want to know what other people would do?
Gazzab, your spot on mate, a lotus/ westy for track and a jap for drift would be ideal.
I'm a bit on the large side for a westy,and don't really want to run 2 dedicated cars as well as a daily hack.
Its ok with the cerb and the daily but 3 would be too much.
Only real option is to keep cerb or sell and buy jap suitable for track and drift.
Really don't know what to do??
I'm a bit on the large side for a westy,and don't really want to run 2 dedicated cars as well as a daily hack.
Its ok with the cerb and the daily but 3 would be too much.
Only real option is to keep cerb or sell and buy jap suitable for track and drift.
Really don't know what to do??
Cerb would be rubbish for this... it lacks steering lock, caster and various parts that drifters tend to rely on are weak (clutch/handbrake!)
IMHO, you need to do a car control day or similar with Mazda On Track - literally encouraged hoonary - nothing to hit and you'll soon realise how the Cerb isnt the weapon of choice without embarissing yourself infront of a bunch of tarts in neon coloured 200sx's...
(its a much more relaxed event)
I reckon my Mazda is easier to get sideways, hold, balance and ride out a huge slide. The Cerb will initiate a touch better due to torque, but you'd never get decent angle and it'd fight you along the way. Totally the wrong car for the job... oh and mx5's can be had for under a grand - if you want a beginners drift toy that you really dont have to care about, I recommend it! Awesome fun, modern spitfire...
IMHO, you need to do a car control day or similar with Mazda On Track - literally encouraged hoonary - nothing to hit and you'll soon realise how the Cerb isnt the weapon of choice without embarissing yourself infront of a bunch of tarts in neon coloured 200sx's...
(its a much more relaxed event) I reckon my Mazda is easier to get sideways, hold, balance and ride out a huge slide. The Cerb will initiate a touch better due to torque, but you'd never get decent angle and it'd fight you along the way. Totally the wrong car for the job... oh and mx5's can be had for under a grand - if you want a beginners drift toy that you really dont have to care about, I recommend it! Awesome fun, modern spitfire...
Edited by BCA on Thursday 4th February 02:19
I've done a few trach days in the Cerb and each time something broke.
Now admittedly they were all fairly minor bits (except for the tyres I destroyed in a 115 mph 360* spin) but they still take time to sort.
I'm looking out for something like an Elise, etc for the track days and keep the cerb for "road fun".
Now admittedly they were all fairly minor bits (except for the tyres I destroyed in a 115 mph 360* spin) but they still take time to sort.
I'm looking out for something like an Elise, etc for the track days and keep the cerb for "road fun".
Ireland, I fear the elise may have the same problem, but they're awesome all the same and I want one too eventually (albeit with a K20 honda engine.)
I actually bought the mx5 for the same reason. I have the use of the Cerb for trackdays, and although it is very strong, the fear of breaking it/ cost of consumeables is just a little bit much. Theres something to be said for a car with £40 (pair) brake pads, £28 a corner tyres (T1Rs!), cheap servicing and being otherwise utterly bulletproof - Oh and it did 40mpg all the way to and from the 'ring... where it lapped without fault all day long.
I actually bought the mx5 for the same reason. I have the use of the Cerb for trackdays, and although it is very strong, the fear of breaking it/ cost of consumeables is just a little bit much. Theres something to be said for a car with £40 (pair) brake pads, £28 a corner tyres (T1Rs!), cheap servicing and being otherwise utterly bulletproof - Oh and it did 40mpg all the way to and from the 'ring... where it lapped without fault all day long.

Depends which wheels you have. The 14" wheels may cost that much, but the 15" Toyo T1r's are £50 each for the mx-5.
However, it is dirt cheap and reliable. We've had ours for 8 years.
Checkout some of the parts pricing compared to a tvr
http://www.mx5parts.co.uk/
However, it is dirt cheap and reliable. We've had ours for 8 years.
Checkout some of the parts pricing compared to a tvr
http://www.mx5parts.co.uk/
www.camskill.co.uk
I have 15's.. and have bought two sets now at £124 a set each time! I killed the first set going sideways, have done just over 2kmiles in the car - best use of tyres EVER! - the other set arent technically dead, but I've mounted them to a spare set of wheels for track use, my spare *set* of wheels cost 80quid too..
Edit; Just seen that they've gone up in price, still £30 aint bad..

I have 15's.. and have bought two sets now at £124 a set each time! I killed the first set going sideways, have done just over 2kmiles in the car - best use of tyres EVER! - the other set arent technically dead, but I've mounted them to a spare set of wheels for track use, my spare *set* of wheels cost 80quid too..
Edit; Just seen that they've gone up in price, still £30 aint bad..

Edited by BCA on Thursday 4th February 16:53
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