Tracking and Camber Settings
Discussion
Sorry to drag up an old topic,
finaly sorted a tyre, and have booked allignment/geometory check with a highly recomended supplier, who has all the kit,and aparently knows how to use it ( and doesen`t posess a pair of mole grips or a greasy alsation )!!
but he has no data for the cerb.
Will the numbers provided by Joolz (as above)provide the basic requirements to avoid scurfing the front tyres again?.... an expensive game !
finaly sorted a tyre, and have booked allignment/geometory check with a highly recomended supplier, who has all the kit,and aparently knows how to use it ( and doesen`t posess a pair of mole grips or a greasy alsation )!!
but he has no data for the cerb.
Will the numbers provided by Joolz (as above)provide the basic requirements to avoid scurfing the front tyres again?.... an expensive game !
[quote=SXS ]Joo spends every minute of his life in that garage of his coming up with a number of config setups, and you think he's gonna splatter them on here?
Book the car in with him and get him to sort it out.
Knowledge is money![/quote]
Very defeatest attitude you're preaching there SXS.
Book the car in with him and get him to sort it out.
Knowledge is money![/quote]
Very defeatest attitude you're preaching there SXS.
Not getting at the Jools, although I don't think jools is short of work.
Just that setup is quite a personal thing, and certainly Cerbs are very individual cars. I don't think there is any one setup that works for everything. I had my Cerb done at the dealers and hated it afterward, so progressively I've made small changes to settings, esp since getting the Nitrons. As long as you only make one change at a time and note what you've done you can't really go wrong. My car is boats better than a year ago when the dealer set it up.
My comments weren't directed at jools, just the lack of have a go attitude.
Just that setup is quite a personal thing, and certainly Cerbs are very individual cars. I don't think there is any one setup that works for everything. I had my Cerb done at the dealers and hated it afterward, so progressively I've made small changes to settings, esp since getting the Nitrons. As long as you only make one change at a time and note what you've done you can't really go wrong. My car is boats better than a year ago when the dealer set it up.
My comments weren't directed at jools, just the lack of have a go attitude.
I haven't got any. 
I have no idea how to measure angles at my wheel with any sort of accuracy, certainly not down to minutes of arc. But then when you cast a machinists eye over the kit they use at the local halfords you can see neither do they.
I just fiddle a bit then try then fiddle a bit then try. Each time if its better I keep it, if its worse I go back a step.
Simple, no measuring needed, and seems to work for me. But it does mean I don't have any absolute readings I could transfer to another car.
The only warning I would give someone else doing this is to record each change so you can go back if all goes wrong. Leave yourself a trail of breadcrumbs.
Do you have one set of settings that work for all customers then Joolz?
I have no idea how to measure angles at my wheel with any sort of accuracy, certainly not down to minutes of arc. But then when you cast a machinists eye over the kit they use at the local halfords you can see neither do they.
I just fiddle a bit then try then fiddle a bit then try. Each time if its better I keep it, if its worse I go back a step.
Simple, no measuring needed, and seems to work for me. But it does mean I don't have any absolute readings I could transfer to another car.
The only warning I would give someone else doing this is to record each change so you can go back if all goes wrong. Leave yourself a trail of breadcrumbs.
Do you have one set of settings that work for all customers then Joolz?
Julian64 said:
Do you have one set of settings that work for all customers then Joolz?
The way I think Joo does it, is he has a variety of setups and variable factors in the setups, and the customer basically asks for a certain type of ride, whats important to the customer?, handling round twisties?, low speed drivability?, high speed drivability?, soft/subtle?, stiff?, drag?...
and then leave it with him, and bobs your uncle, you get what you asked for, recommended to get new tyres banged on too, so you can bed them in nicely with the new configuration....
[quote=SXS ]
The way I think Joo does it, is he has a variety of setups and variable factors in the setups, and the customer basically asks for a certain type of ride, whats important to the customer?, handling round twisties?, low speed drivability?, high speed drivability?, soft/subtle?, stiff?, drag?...
and then leave it with him, and bobs your uncle, you get what you asked for, recommended to get new tyres banged on too, so you can bed them in nicely with the new configuration....[/quote]
Exactly my point.
Julian64 said:
Do you have one set of settings that work for all customers then Joolz?
The way I think Joo does it, is he has a variety of setups and variable factors in the setups, and the customer basically asks for a certain type of ride, whats important to the customer?, handling round twisties?, low speed drivability?, high speed drivability?, soft/subtle?, stiff?, drag?...
and then leave it with him, and bobs your uncle, you get what you asked for, recommended to get new tyres banged on too, so you can bed them in nicely with the new configuration....[/quote]
Exactly my point.
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