Keeping chassis rust at bay
Keeping chassis rust at bay
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johnmckenzie

Original Poster:

158 posts

290 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2002
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I'm sure that many of you with Cerberas of any significant age will have noticed the c**p quality of the powdercoat finish on the suspension and chassis and the subsequent rusting that takes place.The front wishbones particularly seem vunerable to the paint sheeting off (presumably due to flexing??)leaving a heavily corroded surface. Being a sad individual, I spent 2 days over the Christmas period underneath the beast armed with wire brush, Black and Decker, Dremel, Jenolite rust inhibitor, red oxide paint and Hammerite white smooth finish. It all looked lovely by the time I'd finished but last week took it in for MOT (its now 4 years old). Passed the MOT with flying colours but I was able to look at the results of my handywork 3 months on whilst it was up on the ramp. Rust spots are breaking through in numerous places and I'd guess that by next Christmas I'll be back to square one.
Anyone out there who has tried anything different to my aforementioned treatment?

Regards

John

venom500

2,984 posts

305 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2002
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Used wax oil on my rusting speed six seemed to do the job.Was surprised at the rust on such a new car (only 12 months old)I think your wise to nip it in the bud before it gets to bad.

octane junkie

244 posts

290 months

Thursday 4th April 2002
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Like you Venom, I was dismayed at the state of my 3 yr old 4.5's steel bits - the chassis looks like it has the life expectancy of a 70's Lada. Anyone done a body-off restore on a Cerbera? How difficult etc.,?

tangerinedream

147 posts

122 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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Sad obsessive that I am, I'm starting a beginning to end read of the PH Cerbera pages to see what useful / amusing gems I can find. This one cracked me up. It appears to be the first mention of body-off. Fortune-tellers, they were. smile

TwinKam

3,453 posts

117 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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So, 15 years on, what has been found to be the definitive treatment?

tangerinedream

147 posts

122 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Peter Essling's chassis guards have got to be A high priority preventative measure.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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TwinKam said:
So, 15 years on, what has been found to be the definitive treatment?
Body off, media blast, zinc plasma spray galvanise, powder coat, body back on.

Byker28i

82,961 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Tanguero said:
TwinKam said:
So, 15 years on, what has been found to be the definitive treatment?
Body off, media blast, zinc plasma spray galvanise, powder coat, body back on.
POR15 products, 2 pack top coat, hardens through a chemical process. Seems ok two years on.

Jhonno

6,430 posts

163 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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www.rust.co.uk Do a very good product.

TwinKam

3,453 posts

117 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Byker28i said:
POR15 products, 2 pack top coat, hardens through a chemical process. Seems ok two years on.
Fully accept the full monty approach with body off, but to clarify, for a touch up job:

1)Rub back to bare metal
2)The full 3 stage POR15 rust treatment of
i)Cleaner Degreaser
ii)Metal Prep
iii)Rust Preventative Coating
and then
3)POR15 2K Urethane gloss top coat?

Re stages 2)i)&ii), what's special about POR15 degreaser, won't celly thinners do? and what does the Metal Prep do beyond that, does it etch?
And I was thinking of a more heat resistant top coat on the chassis rails next to the manifolds eg VHT

ukkid35

6,378 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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In my experience it is really important to address areas when they become accessible.

So when the manifolds are off you can treat the areas that suffer as a result of the truly insane expansion tank overflow 'design'.

When the suspension is off then make the most of that opportunity.

As you can see from this photo, my efforts at applying POR15 are in keeping with the standard the PO employed when painting the front of the car.



However, I can't see that when I'm driving.

Revvit

334 posts

141 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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I've installed Design Engineering reflect-a-gold tape to the chassis tubing and rails adjacent the manifold in an effort to prevent the coating being damaged by the high temperatures.

I'm also going to try spraying some ACF-50 generally, and especially in those hard to reach areas.

And then there's the stainless steel front outrigger protectors purchased from Peter to install.

ukkid35

6,378 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Revvit said:
And then there's the stainless steel front outrigger protectors purchased from Peter to install.
I don't think the car has outrigger protectors as standard, it only really to protect the brake and clutch lines on drivers side. However like many others I have added an aluminium shield to the passenger side as well.

Revvit

334 posts

141 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Just realised that I have the original poster's car!

Suffice to say that it now has a new chassis laugh

Byker28i

82,961 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Chassis off is worth doing: