steering rack refurb
steering rack refurb
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ukcerb

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401 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Has anyone used Greenwich power steering services for a refurb? I have been quoted by someone else £1000 to take out overhaul and refit. Sounds pricey? Would I be better to fit an electric one maybe? Your advice appreciated.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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ukcerb said:
Has anyone used Greenwich power steering services for a refurb? I have been quoted by someone else £1000 to take out overhaul and refit. Sounds pricey? Would I be better to fit an electric one maybe? Your advice appreciated.
Yes, use Kiley Clinton in Birmingham instead. I've had four rebuilds on my Griff rack in total and Kiley did a far superior job to any of the others.

Pursyluv

1,949 posts

203 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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ukcerb YHM

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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This company has also been recommended by another Cerb owner

http://www.westernpowersteering.co.uk/

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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JensenA said:
This company has also been recommended by another Cerb owner

http://www.westernpowersteering.co.uk/
Used them too, Kiley Clinton are the only firm I'd use whistle

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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BliarOut said:
JensenA said:
This company has also been recommended by another Cerb owner

http://www.westernpowersteering.co.uk/
Used them too, Kiley Clinton are the only firm I'd use whistle
Why? I wasn't recommending Western, just passing on a Cerb owners reccomendation. A few people have had problems on getting the racks repaired - like me - so we need to find a place that we can trust.

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Silverstone Performance had mine refurbished by someone up Birmingham way - but I'm afraid I don't know the name. You could ring Matt at SP though.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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JensenA said:
BliarOut said:
JensenA said:
This company has also been recommended by another Cerb owner

http://www.westernpowersteering.co.uk/
Used them too, Kiley Clinton are the only firm I'd use whistle
Why? I wasn't recommending Western, just passing on a Cerb owners reccomendation. A few people have had problems on getting the racks repaired - like me - so we need to find a place that we can trust.
I've had four rack rebuilds on my Griff weeping The first was by Greenwich to resolve excessive play, the rack lasted eleven months and then an oil seal failed catastrophically. They rebuilt it again and it lasted a month before dumping it's entire contents on the road! My third rebuild was by Western and it came back leaking mildly from day one. Throughout those three rebuilds I didn't have full assistance to the left due to scoring picked up on the first rebuild.

I spoke to Kiley Clinton as they offer all manner of 'proper'engineering services such as hard chroming and grinding etc. One of their guys did his apprenticeship at Burman (a rack manufacturer) and they seem to know what they are on about.

He explained that the reason they keep failing it twofold. First, you've got a steel pump running in iron and second the flexible pipes break down internally. However carefully you flush the system and rebuild the rack this detritus gets carried around and attacks the new seals from the inside. This detritus is running at 100 degrees and a few thousand PSI.

They make two modifications to the Griff rack due to it's poor design. They bore out the end cap and housing to accept an o-ring so the high pressure side isn't relying solely on thread locker to seal. The second one is secret, I've been asked not to say what it is but it improves the feel smile

They advised that I replace all the flexible lines which I did and suggested I fit a filter in the return line. I managed to find an ATF filter which seems to be doing a good job.

I can and do recommend Kiley Clinton for the reasons above, I wouldn't recommend the other companies based on my experiences.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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amazon said:
Silverstone Performance had mine refurbished by someone up Birmingham way - but I'm afraid I don't know the name. You could ring Matt at SP though.
KC are in Brum wink

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Cheers Rob - KC it is then .

amazon

3,704 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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BliarOut said:
amazon said:
Silverstone Performance had mine refurbished by someone up Birmingham way - but I'm afraid I don't know the name. You could ring Matt at SP though.
KC are in Brum wink
Ah. Should've checked website first tongue out

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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How much do KC charge?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Same as or a bit less than the others including the o ring mod.

ukcerb

Original Poster:

401 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Thanks for replies, always good when someone reccomends so highly. I will post how I get on.

Rufus Roughcut

535 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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ukcerb said:
Thanks for replies, always good when someone reccomends so highly. I will post how I get on.
Good man cuz mine is leaking like a sieve mad

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Have any of you stripped the rack and refurbed it yourselves?

julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Ireland said:
Have any of you stripped the rack and refurbed it yourselves?
No but I want to.

If you do this could you post the place to get the seals. I rang two rack refurbishers inc Greenwich and they refused to sell them frown

fatjon

2,299 posts

242 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Confused, the title is steering rack refurb but the OP mentions the possibility of replacing with an electric one. The steering pump can be replaced with an electric one from a Saxo but I have never heard of a rack replacement other than the standard unit. The pump appears to be a range rover unit ERR5407 which can be had for change out of £100 although I think the pulley may need changing over.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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The pulley might want changing as the AJP one is shaft driven and in the stack behind the oil pump and water pump... smile

ukcerb

Original Poster:

401 posts

224 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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fatjon said:
Confused, the title is steering rack refurb but the OP mentions the possibility of replacing with an electric one. The steering pump can be replaced with an electric one from a Saxo but I have never heard of a rack replacement other than the standard unit. The pump appears to be a range rover unit ERR5407 which can be had for change out of £100 although I think the pulley may need changing over.
I was interested to know if anyone thought the electric pump worked better, I still have to have the rack refurbed.Sorry to confuse. It now looks as if the metal water pipes and hoses including heater hoses are going to have to be replaced.