RS232 Serial Port
RS232 Serial Port
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ridds

Original Poster:

8,366 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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Where is it??

I thought it was under teh passenger side of the dash but having a breif look yesterday I couldn't find it there. Any clues?

mike_e

593 posts

285 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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Presume you mean the port for the ECU. It's behing the front panel in the nearside footwell.

darreni

4,320 posts

292 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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The port is actually in the ECU. Remove the ECU front panel& it will be staring at you. If you're about to do some home tuning, be careful.
Darren.

Holohan

17 posts

264 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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I was led to believe that the laptop connector was actually in the ECU, but when I looked guess what? no socket type looking thing in there whatsoever. There are a couple of connectors in the loom adjacent to the ECU but they don't look like standard computer type connectors. Do I need my eyes tested?

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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Pull away the carpet in the passenger footwell, attached to the end of the footwell (via some velcro) will be a silver box about 8 inches square. Undo the 4 screws on the face of the box and open it up. In the centre will be an RS232 serial port.
Plug in your laptop, fiddle with the settings, blow up your car.

ridds

Original Poster:

8,366 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th February 2004
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lol, do any of the new MINI's blow up??? Nope. I did them so .

You can't adjust maps etc with the software I have anyway.

col_s

19 posts

292 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Holohan said:
I was led to believe that the laptop connector was actually in the ECU, but when I looked guess what? no socket type looking thing in there whatsoever. There are a couple of connectors in the loom adjacent to the ECU but they don't look like standard computer type connectors. Do I need my eyes tested?



Newer cars do not have a socket inside the ECU case. They have an external (I think 3 pin) connector coming off the wiring loom. You need a special cable to convert this to a standard serial connector. Maybe TVR can sell you one. I guess you could make your own if you had the wiring info.


Julian64

14,325 posts

276 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Do not connect a standard RS232 cable to the CAR!!!!!!

The wiring of the cable is different to a standard RS232.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Julian64 said:
Do not connect a standard RS232 cable to the CAR!!!!!!

The wiring of the cable is different to a standard RS232.


Worked fine in my 96 4.2, what's different?

Julian64

14,325 posts

276 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Strangely on mine there is a direct link to the engine fan. I thought this was used by engineers to have the fan running continously while they were working on the engine. A standard RS232 (depending on the lead, whether it has all the earths in it or not) shorts this out without a care for the strength of the buffers in the laptop. The recommended lead has a pull up/pull down resistor in it that stop this happening on mine.

When I first connected my 'standard' RS232 to the cerb the computer reset, and I couldn't get the ignition to come on again, and the engine fan ran continuously until I had disconnected the battery. I thought I'd buggered the ECU at that point. There were tears all round.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Julian64 said:


When I first connected my 'standard' RS232 to the cerb the computer reset, and I couldn't get the ignition to come on again, and the engine fan ran continuously until I had disconnected the battery. I thought I'd buggered the ECU at that point. There were tears all round.


Blimey, I just plugged mine in without a care in the world and didn't have any problems...

Julian64

14,325 posts

276 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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You may have had a lead with earths in the right place. If anyones interested I'll post the wiring diagram of the recommended version.

whatever

2,174 posts

292 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Julian64 said:
You may have had a lead with earths in the right place. If anyones interested I'll post the wiring diagram of the recommended version.


Aye, go on.

ridds

Original Poster:

8,366 posts

266 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I refered to it as RS232 as I thought this was a generic term for the plug (we always call them 232's at work) You should always check you have the correct pin outs no matter what your connecting.

Just because the pug fits doesn;t mean that it's right.

Holohan

17 posts

264 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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col_s said:

Holohan said:
I was led to believe that the laptop connector was actually in the ECU, but when I looked guess what? no socket type looking thing in there whatsoever. There are a couple of connectors in the loom adjacent to the ECU but they don't look like standard computer type connectors. Do I need my eyes tested?




Newer cars do not have a socket inside the ECU case. They have an external (I think 3 pin) connector coming off the wiring loom. You need a special cable to convert this to a standard serial connector. Maybe TVR can sell you one. I guess you could make your own if you had the wiring info.


Holohan

17 posts

264 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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col_s said:

Holohan said:
I was led to believe that the laptop connector was actually in the ECU, but when I looked guess what? no socket type looking thing in there whatsoever. There are a couple of connectors in the loom adjacent to the ECU but they don't look like standard computer type connectors. Do I need my eyes tested?




Newer cars do not have a socket inside the ECU case. They have an external (I think 3 pin) connector coming off the wiring loom. You need a special cable to convert this to a standard serial connector. Maybe TVR can sell you one. I guess you could make your own if you had the wiring info.




ooops, sorry about that.

What I ment to say is that my car's not a newer one, it's a 97 4.2. However, a wiring diagram would be very useful for this type of connection if anybody has one.

Julian64

14,325 posts

276 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I'll look this up tonight