Air filter
Air filter
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j_s_g

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6,177 posts

272 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I took the air filter out for a clean yesterday, and found it was really, REALLY oily. Now, I know you impregnate filters with oil for driving in desert conditions, but in England??? I'm guessing it's not supposed to be this bad.

I'm currently hovering over the TVR-Gear "buy" button on a replacement one at £23... before I click the mouse-button, has anybody noticed any real improvement from cones/other configurations, etc?

[Edited to add]: Or do you guys generally just soak the existing one in petrol for a while & dry it out?

>>> Edited by j_s_g on Monday 1st March 12:42

ridds

8,366 posts

266 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Should be oily to collect dust and muck from the air. If you don;t oil it you may as well leave it out as it won;t stop half the damaging particles that it should. Foam Elements don't catch anything like the small particles that woven paper ones do anyway.

j_s_g

Original Poster:

6,177 posts

272 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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ridds said:
Should be oily to collect dust and muck from the air. If you don;t oil it you may as well leave it out as it won;t stop half the damaging particles that it should. Foam Elements don't catch anything like the small particles that woven paper ones do anyway.

I'm talking the kind & amount of oil that took a good few minutes to scrub off my hands; it just seemed almost waterlogged with it.

Richard Walker

6 posts

264 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I would also like to know how people have got on with any replacements, as I had a look at mine this weekend (long story - plenty of oil on mine but for different reason) and it seems, how do I say, inadequate?

simonsparrow

1,589 posts

284 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I've just replaced my original filter with 2 BMC 'twin-cone' filters, fitted onto the end of the airboxes.

Part number TW90-130, its a Porsche fittment which allows for the air temp probe to be moved to it. (the other side requires blanking off).

Cost - £100 all in, ordered over the counter from Halfords.

Richard Walker

6 posts

264 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Have you had any problems with overheating/running when hot?

satman

2,455 posts

268 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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j_s_g said:


I'm talking the kind & amount of oil that took a good few minutes to scrub off my hands; it just seemed almost waterlogged with it.




I too had what seemed excess oil, which has dripped down through the air intake on the front panel not long after a service....phoned the dealers to be told this perfectly normal as they 'spray' the cloth filter with an oil to prevent particles of air passing through the 'dry' filter....needless to say i havent seen any more oil on the front panel since!

Richard Walker

6 posts

264 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I had oil dripping from the air intake yesterday, but it wasn't from the filter...

ridds

8,366 posts

266 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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satman said:
to prevent particles of air passing through


Tell that dealer that must be some clever oil to stop air particles getting through!

satman

2,455 posts

268 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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ridds said:

satman said:
to prevent particles of air passing through



Tell that dealer that must be some clever oil to stop air particles getting through!


Doh!....too fast with the keypad!....particles of dust!.....i'll go and lie down for a while..

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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simonsparrow said:
I've just replaced my original filter with 2 BMC 'twin-cone' filters, fitted onto the end of the airboxes.


I'm currently chopping and changing between the original foam and some cone filters.

The cones make the engine sound a bit more raw, however I had problems with misfiring if driving in heavy rain. Not having the foam in the front compartment just forces rainwater into the engine bay. This was only in really heavy rain though.

Not sure if I'll keep the cones, but i'll try them again when the weather gets a bit better.

simonsparrow

1,589 posts

284 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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I can see how that could happen.

I'll probably remove the 'scoop' part of the front air cleaner, as without the restriction of the original foam element a lot of air will be flowing through the engine bay.

But before I do that, I'll need to put some sort of mesh in place as otherwise the radiator will be too exposed.

ridds

8,366 posts

266 months

Monday 1st March 2004
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Yeah just stick the boxes in place of the flexible pipes and then attach the airbox and remaining pipes to the cone cans. Nice cold air feed.

What filters do the cones use as woven paper is more restrictive than the foam...

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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ridds said:
Yeah just stick the boxes in place of the flexible pipes and then attach the airbox and remaining pipes to the cone cans. Nice cold air feed.

What filters do the cones use as woven paper is more restrictive than the foam...


I've read that a few times, but can't work out what you are suggesting. The cones are much larger than the pipes.

ridds

8,366 posts

266 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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Well that won't work then. You'll need to get some larger pipework.

You need to try and keep the cold air feed from the front as putting 2 cones on the end of the air boxes will just suck in hot air and potentially cause you more detonation problems etc etc.

Even just supporting the feed pipes from the air box in front of the cones would be better than nothing.

jo williams

693 posts

303 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2004
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I think Joolz is in the process of getting some carbon fibre ducts made to do just that. Any news Joolz??

Jo