Cerbera Suspension
Cerbera Suspension
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Knobby 123

Original Poster:

13 posts

197 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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I have just purchased a Cerbera V8, and find that it tram lines like a bh.

Has anyone got any experience of changing castor, camber or KPi inclination, or wishbones?

I have been told that it should be possible to get the car to drive straight, regardless, without changing tyre width or depth?

Any suggestions?

Knobby

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Check your tyre pressures first, 22 front 24 rear.

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Check the make of tyres too - S03's were terrible.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

230 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Get it to a specialist and get a 4 wheel alignment check.

Knobby 123

Original Poster:

13 posts

197 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Thanks for the info.

I have four new TOYOS on her, the tyre pressures are as they should b, but i will check them this morning when she comes back from the gagage.

She has had a four wheel alignment.

Have any of you Cerbera owners out there experienced the same problem?

knobby

Knobby 123

Original Poster:

13 posts

197 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Thanks for the info.

I have four new TOYOS on her, the tyre pressures are as they should b, but i will check them this morning when she comes back from the gagage.

She has had a four wheel alignment.

Have any of you Cerbera owners out there experienced the same problem?

knobby

Knobby 123

Original Poster:

13 posts

197 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Thanks for the info.

I have four new TOYOS on her, the tyre pressures are as they should b, but i will check them this morning when she comes back from the gagage.

She has had a four wheel alignment.

Have any of you Cerbera owners out there experienced the same problem?

knobby

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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What sizes are the tyres?

Anything wider than a 225 on the front will make it a pig to drive.

I found out the hard way so I know what I'm talking about. weeping

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Ireland said:
What sizes are the tyres?

Anything wider than a 225 on the front will make it a pig to drive.

I found out the hard way so I know what I'm talking about. weeping
Interesting...I am looking at 235 for the front, same as Tuscan II's etc... Is this not a good idea?
Gary

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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235/40/17's were fitted as standard to the RL7's - I've got a set on my Cerb and they're fine.

esso

1,849 posts

246 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Shocks? ~ camber?

Knobby 123

Original Poster:

13 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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I have 225/55/18" on the front and 255/35/18" and was told to leave them and not put bigger wheels on it as it will upset the handling?

Knobby

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Your right - dot put bigger wheels on unless just for looks. The questions remains whether 235 40 18 on the fronts is a bad idea.

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Knobby, if you're running standard sized,good condition tyres on the correct wheels then it can only be geometry. IIRC, the caster isn't designed to be adjustable, however, it's probably worth checking again to confirm that it's about right as it has a big impact on the ability of the steering to self centre.

Can you post up the figures from your 4 wheel alignment?

One other thing - what tyres pressures are you running?

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

307 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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235's handle better than 225's, I've tried various makes and sizes. Goodyears have been the best so far

Mr.Cerbera

5,151 posts

259 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Mine developed the tendency to tramline in Lorry depressions but had fantastic directional control on flat roads and a superb turn in characteristic. Fronts wore out on the outer edge.

Just changed the tyres and had the toe-in checked and it was 1.17 deg, The recommended was between 0 and 0.17 and the testers changed it to 0.07.

The tramlining has dissappeared but the car doesn't feel too uni-directional at speed and I am constantly having to re-correct.

Think I'll go back to tramlining scratchchin

DuncanM

7,466 posts

308 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Mr.Cerbera said:
Mine developed the tendency to tramline in Lorry depressions but had fantastic directional control on flat roads and a superb turn in characteristic. Fronts wore out on the outer edge.

Just changed the tyres and had the toe-in checked and it was 1.17 deg, The recommended was between 0 and 0.17 and the testers changed it to 0.07.

The tramlining has dissappeared but the car doesn't feel too uni-directional at speed and I am constantly having to re-correct.

Think I'll go back to tramlining scratchchin
Hello,

the above sounds like you reduced the toe-in and yet got worse turn in rather than better.

In my understanding your experience is the complete opposite to what you should have experienced.

Toe-in = Stability Toe-out = great turn in and response.

Hmmm I'm confused!

Duncan

Adrenochrome

1,860 posts

242 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Here are my settings.

Left front -1°13 camber
Left front 4°21 caster
left front 0°05 Toe
Right Front -1°12 camber
Right front 3°51 caster
Right front 0°05 Toe

Front Total toe 0°10
Steer Ahead 0°00

Left Rear -0°32 Camber
Left rear 0°14 Toe
Right Rear -1°10 Camber
Right Rear 0°10 Toe

Rear total toe 0°24
Thrust Angle 0°02

Edited by Adrenochrome on Monday 24th May 08:27