BANG!!!! Then it was gone......
BANG!!!! Then it was gone......
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WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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It's ok chaps, not the car, just the gearbox, well 5th gear to be precise.

OK so I have been pretty much everywhere in the NE today and on the way home I pulled out from a junction, all the way through the gears, into 5th started to accelerate, then hear a loud bang and lots of clicking doming from my gearbox, knocked it into neutral and could still hear clicking, but not as loud.

Tried 4th, car was driving/pulling perfectly fine, so knew it wasn't diff, although when in gear the clicking of metal was bad and could feel it through the gearstick, so badly, it was unscrewing the gearnob. Put it back into 5th and the grating was dreadful, but thought if it drives I can get it home, not too far to go.

However, when in 5th the car was driving and pulling but only just, the revs were rocketing, almost the same as if the clutch was slipping, if you get my meaning? Decided it was best to stop and get AA out, hope they cover gearboxes in their breakdown repair thingy-me-bob. frown

So I'm presuming 5th gear has just disintegrated inside the casing. Am I also correct in assuming that 5th gear is pretty much made from chocolate in the T5? Is there an upgraded part if my assumptions are correct?

Who do I get to sort it out? Gearboxman? The car is actually going to green Star Racing on Thursday for it's service so will get them to sort it.

ETA could I have done any damage to the other gears by driving it?

Edited by WorAl on Sunday 23 May 21:07

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Sorry to hear that Alan frown. I know the feeling, my 3rd gear disintegrated a couple of years ago. Andy at APM fixed mine, but since then I've heard good things about Gearboxman. Hope you get it sorted soon.

RPE11Y

983 posts

290 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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My Tuscans T5 box did the same. I took the box out myself, bought the new gear bits and had a local gearbox specialist rebuild it. Fitted it back in and it was perfect again.
The good thing is that the 5th gear is in a separate part of the casing from the rest of the gears, so you should hopefully not have damaged any more.
Cost me well over £300, but could have been a lot worse!
Let us know how you get on at Greenstar - good TVR garage...

Edited by RPE11Y on Monday 24th May 06:48

Gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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AFAIK As 5th gear is used before selecting reverse it gets a hammering. So its common for this to happen. As said it can sometimes be fixed without rebuilding all of the gearbox.

WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Well just spoken to Green Star and they are going to recondition the gearbox for a very reasonable price I would say. So good new on that front.

peteA

2,761 posts

263 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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WorAl said:
Well just spoken to Green Star and they are going to recondition the gearbox for a very reasonable price I would say. So good new on that front.
Sorry the hear that Al - been hearing good things about Greenstar...sure steve (NE TVRCC) sends his chimaera there..?

I got my diff refurbed by alan voight - they advertise in the rear of sprint as transmission specialists - sounds like you have it covered but if you need another option?

hope you are sorted and back on the road soon.

WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Alright Pete, took it down to Green Star last year and they done a cracking job.

As I said, the car was going to then this weekend anyway to get sorted just means it will be away for a couple extra days, nothing serious as should still have it back for the following weekend anyway (as planned) just a few quid lighter. frown

peteA

2,761 posts

263 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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WorAl said:
Alright Pete, took it down to Green Star last year and they done a cracking job.

As I said, the car was going to then this weekend anyway to get sorted just means it will be away for a couple extra days, nothing serious as should still have it back for the following weekend anyway (as planned) just a few quid lighter. frown
thats quick / good!

Cerbs seem to have a way of making sure your wallet doesnt get too fat eh...

WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Only takes a couple of days apparently, ex factory lads are doing it, so hopefully will come back better than new, same as the car hehe

Killer Rhubarb

388 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Dave @ The Garage Compton 01483 811995.

fixed mine only a couple months ago. Reconned my old box.

Job done.

WorAl

Original Poster:

10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Cheers KR, will give them a shout if I have any problems, but since car is going down there anyway for a service, I might as well just let them sort it. I trust them with the car so things should pan out just fine :crossesfingers&toes:

Killer Rhubarb

388 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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WorAl said:
Cheers KR, will give them a shout if I have any problems, but since car is going down there anyway for a service, I might as well just let them sort it. I trust them with the car so things should pan out just fine :crossesfingers&toes:
Same as that mate, wouldnt take my car anywhere else. Might cruise past at the weekend with donuts if your there! smile

WorAl

Original Poster:

10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Killer Rhubarb said:
WorAl said:
Cheers KR, will give them a shout if I have any problems, but since car is going down there anyway for a service, I might as well just let them sort it. I trust them with the car so things should pan out just fine :crossesfingers&toes:
Same as that mate, wouldnt take my car anywhere else. Might cruise past at the weekend with donuts if your there! smile
Newcastle may be a bit out of your way to drop some doughnuts off, but if you fancy a run out, you're welcome to pop in mate winkhehe

Killer Rhubarb

388 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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WorAl said:
Killer Rhubarb said:
WorAl said:
Cheers KR, will give them a shout if I have any problems, but since car is going down there anyway for a service, I might as well just let them sort it. I trust them with the car so things should pan out just fine :crossesfingers&toes:
Same as that mate, wouldnt take my car anywhere else. Might cruise past at the weekend with donuts if your there! smile
Newcastle may be a bit out of your way to drop some doughnuts off, but if you fancy a run out, you're welcome to pop in mate winkhehe
Oh deary me I just realised! :P

So you send your car down there then? If so I'll pop the donuts in your helmet hole when it goes back (oh matron)

We have more in common than I realised owning a SP6 and me being a massive Toon fan!

WorAl

Original Poster:

10,877 posts

217 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Killer Rhubarb said:
WorAl said:
Killer Rhubarb said:
WorAl said:
Cheers KR, will give them a shout if I have any problems, but since car is going down there anyway for a service, I might as well just let them sort it. I trust them with the car so things should pan out just fine :crossesfingers&toes:
Same as that mate, wouldnt take my car anywhere else. Might cruise past at the weekend with donuts if your there! smile
Newcastle may be a bit out of your way to drop some doughnuts off, but if you fancy a run out, you're welcome to pop in mate winkhehe
Oh deary me I just realised! :P

So you send your car down there then? If so I'll pop the donuts in your helmet hole when it goes back (oh matron)

We have more in common than I realised owning a SP6 and me being a massive Toon fan!
They come and pick it up for me and will drop it back off if you ask them for less than it would cost in fuel and train fair, really good service and top lads.

However, if the mood does take me to pop down and collect it, I'd be happy to meet up? Will let you know closer to the time.

At least you have taste my good man smile

Killer Rhubarb

388 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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see you at arsenal, away!

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Al, what is it with you North East Cerbera drivers and your 5th gear? Ross McDonnald has just needed a new 'box in his Cerb last month after a little spirited driving with an Audi RS6 ended with a firm change into 5th and a box of toothless cogs... for goodness sake, take it easy young man laugh

Good to hear positive feedback on green star too, as Pete says, Steve Elliot uses them for his Chimaera and is full of praise.. thumbup

Paul

350Matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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5th gear on the T5 is an add-on on the end of the box outside the main casing, Tremec in their wisdom didn't put a proper bearing underneath the gear its just hardened steel on hardened steel with some oil film.

This is main reason I'd say use a decent gear oil ( like Castol SMX-S) which has some film strength as opposed to the ATF

Steve_T

6,356 posts

301 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Is there anything that can be done to remedy that Matt?

WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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I know Paul, was a bit of a full bore take off as I was on the A1, trying to get out in front of traffic. Only thing was I had a lovely crowd of onlookers as the southbound carriageway was blocked so gunning it past a line of cars then your gearbox exploding isn't exactly good for your reputation (especially in something that erm kind of stands out)

Steve it's disappointing as it was going for service on Thursday anyway so the gearbox oil would have been changed.

I think a good remedy would be to do all your accelerating in 1st to 4th and leave 5th purely for cruising or higher end speeds where less stress is on the cog.