Front Upper Wishbone Config?

[schimg]

Hi there,

Yes I know I should have taken more photo's when I took it apart...but really struggling getting my head around how the upper front wishbones go on...

I have a large spacer between the chasssis and front bush (one radiator end)of the top section...

Can't work out what the arrangement is at the top ball joint to chassis end..

Think it goes..

Lage washer - top hat washer - plastic spacer - bush -plastic spacer -top hat washer -small washer spacer then chassis...

looked at loads of picciess and diaagrams...still not convinced I have it right...

anyone help?

thanks in advance

[markh1]

Does this picture help?

[markh1]

I will try and remember to take a picture of the bushes tonight.

[schimg]

Hi Mark,

yes it does ...realised where I was going wrong after speaking with Martin at TGA and Joo at Raceproved ..there are no plastic - pvc spacers which I was trying to fit...couldn't work out how they were supported...

Thanks mate...got the front wishbones and hubs on now...get shockers on tonight..

Next hurdle will be the rear handbrake reassembly...

Did you replace the large rear hub nut?

Are they a ford item as in Chimaera?

Edited by schimg on Wednesday 26th May 07:47

[markh1]

Hopefully these pictures will help...









I did replace the hub nuts but can't for the life of me remember where I got them from.

[schimg]

Great help Mark will have a crack at that tonight...

if did you assemble the handbrake mechanism with the hub off the car...then connect the cable when back in situ...

just thinking could do it with the hub sat on the conservaotory floor as opposed to sat on the floor in the garage!

[markh1]

No I did it on the car. Reason being part of the mechanism has to be hooked onto the cable when it is put back together. The worst bit is getting the springs back on, there is hardly any give in them!

[schimg]

Cheers Mark looks like I will have to get the hubs back on first then...did you replace the driveshaft end nuts too?

Guess it would be best practice.. do we kbnow what they are off...are they cossie items -granada items?

[markh1]

The nuts that I replaced are the 41 or 42mm ones (can't remember the exact size) Again I can't remember where they came from.

[schimg]

markh1 said:

Hopefully these pictures will help...









I did replace the hub nuts but can't for the life of me remember where I got them from.

Well off into the garage in a mo....I will be mostly putting the handbrake assembly back together...

Thanks for posting these piccies up Mark

[JensenA]

The top front wishbone bush on the shock absorber connection confuses me. All the other bushes protrude slightly, just the thickness of the Nylon washer each side. So that when the Nylon washer is fitted, the assemble fits flush to the mounting point on the chassis. But that rear top suspension bush is a lot longer, and has 2 top hat inserts making it even longer, so that when fitted that top wishbone has the potential to slide on that bush. Anyone know why it is longer, and why it is the only bush (AFAIR) that has the 2 top hat inserts??

[schimg]

JensenA said:

The top front wishbone bush on the shock absorber connection confuses me. All the other bushes protrude slightly, just the thickness of the Nylon washer each side. So that when the Nylon washer is fitted, the assemble fits flush to the mounting point on the chassis. But that rear top suspension bush is a lot longer, and has 2 top hat inserts making it even longer, so that when fitted that top wishbone has the potential to slide on that bush. Anyone know why it is longer, and why it is the only bush (AFAIR) that has the 2 top hat inserts??

That interesting are you talking about the bush in the rear hub assembly?
If so mine just has the two nylon washers...pretty much the same arrangement as my chimaera?

[jammy_basturd]

Just to drag this topic back up, currently fitting the front top wishbone and having problems with the wishbone fouling the chassis. Going from back to front, I've got the bolt, a thin small washer, large supporting spacer, top-hat spacer, nylon washer on the end of the bush, bush, then nylon washer, top-hat spacer, chassis (thin small washer and nut).

The problem is that the return flange on the chassis is thicker than the top-hat spacer so it doesn't move the wishbone far enough away from the chassis to clear it?

[JensenA]

Firstly assemble the components for the front part of the wishbone - the part at the front of the car.

You should have
[a]2 Thick metal washers
[b]2 Nylon Washers
[c] 1 Steel Bush fitted inside the wishbone

Put the Bush through the Wishbone
The Nylon Washers fit one each side of the wishbone
Then the 2 thick Metal Washers.

SO the Nylon washers are against the Wishbone, and the Thick metal washers agaisnt the chassis.

So they fit in the order [a][b][c][b][a]
Push the wishbone with the above components fitted correctly, into the 'gap', use a smallish screwdriver in place of the bolt to hold it in place, and still allow some movememt.

Now for the rear one...

[a]1 Thick metal washer
[b]2 Nylon Washers - You may have to cut one to fit into the recess on the mounting Arm thingy.
[c] 1 Steel Bush fitted inside the wishbone - it is longer than the other one.
[d] 2 Top Hats

Put the Steel bush in
Put the Top Hats into the bush
Fit the Nylon washers each side
Fit the Thick metal washer to the rear

So the Order is from front to rear...[b][c][b][a]

Using another screwdriver slide it through the 'eye' and to hold in place.
Now Slide in the Bolts pushing the screwdrivers out.

Hope this all makes sense, it's easier to do than to describe!



This photo shows the Passenger side of rear arm of the Top Wisbone

[jammy_basturd]

Yup, that is exactly how I've got it at the moment. How much clearance do you have between the chassis and the wishbone?

One thing that slightly confused me from your post though, is that I think the bolt is the wrong way around? As I understand the bolt should face forwards, and as such the head of the bolt will be up against the large metal washer (which doesn't go against the chassis).

I definitely haven't got the metal insert for the front bush mixed up with the rear because they come in separate boxes (polybushes).

[JensenA]

Yeah the bolt is the wrong way round, it's just an old photo I dug up.
If you have the front arm connected with the spacer washers and the nylon washers fitted, it should be alligned correctly so that the rear arm clears the chassis. Have they supplied you with the correct steel insert bush and top hats? As in the photo it should be quite a lot longer than the width of the wishbone to enable it to clear the chassis.

[jammy_basturd]

Hmmm, will have to measure it against the old inserts. The bush is the same one as the lower wishbone rear bush isn't it? I'm sure they came in a box together. Top hats and metals spacers aren't supplied with the Powerflex bushes, just the poly bush, metal insert and nylon washers.

[TT Tim]

Powerflex did supply one of my kits with the wrong bits, so do double check everything.

Tim

[JensenA]

Work your way through these photo's, he had the same problem as you

http://tvrcerbera.co.uk/Gallery/displayimage.php?a...

[jammy_basturd]

From that it sounds like the inner diameter of the inner sleeve was too big?

I think my problem is that the overall length of the sleeve is too small. Currently mine doesn't poke out any further than the nylon washers, ie. once the nylon washers are on the ends of the sleeve sit pretty much flush with the side of the washer. Does this sound right?