Cerbera Newbie
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Fudgenudger

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77 posts

196 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Hi Guys,

I am a new proud owner of a 1999 Cerbera 4.5l in Turmalin metallic green (Mercedes colour), I absolutly love the sound and performance, the popping and crackling, etc etc. But I want to enhance that exhaust note even more, so therefore am looking to buy an aftermarket exhaust system.
Can you peeps help me out and guide me to to a good manufacturer.
Iam looking for something very loud, probably with de-cat pipes aswell.
As the car will not be used every day I'm not bothered about any droaning at certain revs or anything like that.
Your input will be much appreciated.
Cheers Guys. (Piccies to follow soon)

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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To get the loudest noise then you should get one custom made AND put cone filters on the air boxes (makes a huge difference).
I guess one of the ACT systems might be loud ?

Gazzab

21,640 posts

311 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1722630.htm

I guess this is the one...?

Seems pretty cheap if the condition is as good as the history.

5MUG

734 posts

293 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Oh well done! We are busy looking at the moment, so may be joining you soon (I hope)!

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Over time there have been a number of PHers who have gone REALLY loud. Pretty sure they have all ended up putting something quieter on. A decatted ACT big bore sports system should give you something around the 110-115dba mark. IMHO that's plenty smile

Remember, if you ever want to put your car on track (heartily recommended) you wont be able to due to the noise if you go too loud as the limited trackday silencers available just wont be able to cope with anything above about 115dba.

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Gazzab said:
http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1722630.htm

I guess this is the one...?

Seems pretty cheap if the condition is as good as the history.
Yep thats the one, yes the condition is fantastic apart from a stress crack on the o/s/r quarter panel which I assume is a common problem but I will get it sorted anyway. It has been well looked after, with the guy before spending lots of money on it. So really it was a bargin.

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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FUBAR said:
Over time there have been a number of PHers who have gone REALLY loud. Pretty sure they have all ended up putting something quieter on. A decatted ACT big bore sports system should give you something around the 110-115dba mark. IMHO that's plenty smile

Remember, if you ever want to put your car on track (heartily recommended) you wont be able to due to the noise if you go too loud as the limited trackday silencers available just wont be able to cope with anything above about 115dba.
Thanks for that info, I understand about trackday regulations, if and when I do take it on a track I will just put the standard exhaust back on .

Also, could you or anyone else recommend any specialists for a full four wheel alignment, I am in the south Bucks area. Cheers

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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As you are 'that way' (oooh matron) speak to Matt at Silverstone Performance. He had a tinker with my geo on a recent Spa trip and it made a massive difference.

I'm sure he will have/have access to a 4 wheel geo machine. Tell him I sent you smile

JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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How come your only criteria is that you want an exhaust that is "Very Loud" - it's not exactly a quiet car with a standard exhaust. You now own a genuine 190mph supercar, you're not a Chav with a Nova 'wot wants it loud innit'.
It's real easy to make a car sound LOUD, just get rid of the silencers, the car will sound like $ste, will probably have a detrimental effect on performance, you will (literally) set of car alarms when you drive past, your neighbours will get pissed off with you when you come home at 2 in the morning, and believe me so will you after a while.
Enhancing the 'sound' of the exhaust is subjective. The Cerb has an angry bark sound to it, it's nothing like the sound of an American V8, so you will never achieve that nice deep V8 rumble. There are a lot of owners who say the best sound is with De-cats and a Standard back box. I'd advise that you start off with getting a set of de-cat's and keeping the standard box and see what you reckon. Your priority should be getting a decent exhaust like an SP performance - about £1000 - then spending some money on getting it re-mapped to achieve a bit more power on the good exhaust system.

However it is your car, so feel free to do what you want smile

Byker28i

91,659 posts

246 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Decatted with sports exhaust is 116db and honestly that's too loud in the car, plus it upsets the neighbours.
It honestly doesn't have to be loud as the noise is just lovely anyway with pops and bangs on the overrun. 106db is bearable, I'm looking to go even quieter.

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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JensenA said:
How come your only criteria is that you want an exhaust that is "Very Loud" - it's not exactly a quiet car with a standard exhaust. You now own a genuine 190mph supercar, you're not a Chav with a Nova 'wot wants it loud innit'.
It's real easy to make a car sound LOUD, just get rid of the silencers, the car will sound like $ste, will probably have a detrimental effect on performance, you will (literally) set of car alarms when you drive past, your neighbours will get pissed off with you when you come home at 2 in the morning, and believe me so will you after a while.
Enhancing the 'sound' of the exhaust is subjective. The Cerb has an angry bark sound to it, it's nothing like the sound of an American V8, so you will never achieve that nice deep V8 rumble. There are a lot of owners who say the best sound is with De-cats and a Standard back box. I'd advise that you start off with getting a set of de-cat's and keeping the standard box and see what you reckon. Your priority should be getting a decent exhaust like an SP performance - about £1000 - then spending some money on getting it re-mapped to achieve a bit more power on the good exhaust system.

However it is your car, so feel free to do what you want smile
Fair point, maybe I did not explain myself very well, very loud was not what I mean't I was just saying what I was thinking at the time. I mean't enhancing the sound and I know that you will never get that american v8 rumble thats not what I am after. Yes it makes a nice sound in standard form but I would like it to be noisier, also my car will not be kept at home for most of the time it will be kept at my garage which is in the middle of nowhere so therefore will not be upsetting the nieghbours. I would just like something that really barks.;)

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Also, would remapping mean that you will loose the popping and crackling on over run ?

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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FUBAR said:
As you are 'that way' (oooh matron) speak to Matt at Silverstone Performance. He had a tinker with my geo on a recent Spa trip and it made a massive difference.

I'm sure he will have/have access to a 4 wheel geo machine. Tell him I sent you smile
Thanks FUBAR will give him a call

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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By the sound of it (see what I did there? hehe) IMO, a sports exhaust from SP or ACT with a decatt is what you're after. No louder. It will give noticeable sound gains over the standard setup.

FWIW I think the ACT 'big bore' tends to give a slightly bassier exhaust note. Having said that, PHer TC's SP system sounds magnificent (for the record I have the ACT big bore and it's fab thumbup)

A remap wont rid you of the pops and bangs. They remain as God intended :Ears:


JensenA

5,671 posts

259 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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What Fubar says....I have an SP on mine and it has a similar back box to the standard exhaust. It gives a slightly bassier sound, it is noiser - despite thir claims that it is a 'quiet' exhaust - and has plenty of pops and bangs.
But try just getting a set of de-cat pipes. A standard back box with de-cats gives a slightly louder tick over sound, but when you floor the throttle you get an amazing 'angry bark' it sounds wonderful, and for £60 well worth trying.
The best exhaust sound I have heard was (ironically when I was on my way to get the SP exhaust fitted) when one of the rear tailpipes on the standard back box just fell off, suddenly I had a wonderful sounding exhaust note, I was almost sorry to have the SP fitted smile

Fudgenudger

Original Poster:

77 posts

196 months

Monday 31st May 2010
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Nice one, thanks for that guys, will try the decats first and then see how it goes.smile